Sound after todays hwids update not working

Todays update of hwids (20210613) wrecked my sound system. Downgrading to version 20201207 solved the issue. Will have to have a closer look if there is some more information available.

yay -Qi hwids
Name                     : hwids
Version                  : 20201207-1
Beschreibung             : hardware identification databases
Architektur              : any
URL                      :
Lizenzen                 : GPL2
Gruppen                  : Nichts
Stellt bereit            : Nichts
Hängt ab von             : Nichts
Optionale Abhängigkeiten : Nichts
Benötigt von             : libosinfo  pciutils  systemd  usbutils

My guess is that it affected systemd. No prove for that though.

This is my output. Sound is okay.

[ricklinux@Archlinux ~]$ yay -Qi hwids
Name            : hwids
Version         : 20201207-1
Description     : hardware identification databases
Architecture    : any
URL             :
Licenses        : GPL2
Groups          : None
Provides        : None
Depends On      : None
Optional Deps   : None
Required By     : libosinfo  pciutils  systemd
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 1958.83 KiB
Packager        : Tobias Powalowski <>
Build Date      : Tue 09 Feb 2021 04:03:20 AM
Install Date    : Sat 12 Jun 2021 06:36:35 PM
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : Signature

[ricklinux@Archlinux ~]$ 

I just did another update and i got a slew along with hwids (20210613) and sound is still okay!

Probably hardware specific, what’s your sound?

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System:    Kernel: 5.12.10-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.22.0 tk: Qt 5.15.2 
           wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: LightDM 1.30.0, SDDM Distro: EndeavourOS base: Arch Linux 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Acer product: Aspire M7810 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Acer model: FMP55 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-B2 date: 01/12/2010 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 860 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 cache: L2: 8 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 44709 
           Speed: 1198 MHz min/max: 1200/2801 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1198 2: 1271 3: 1691 4: 1293 5: 1770 
           6: 1944 7: 1293 8: 1197 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GF100 [GeForce GTX 465] driver: nvidia v: 390.143 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:06c4 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 40 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 465/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.143 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA GF100 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be5 
           class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.6:4 chip-ID: 046d:0825 
           class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter> 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.12.10-arch1-1 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: sndio v: N/A running: no 
           Sound Server-3: JACK v: 1.9.18 running: no 
           Sound Server-4: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no 
           Sound Server-5: PipeWire v: 0.3.30 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82578DC Gigabit Network vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: e1000e v: kernel port: bc00 
           bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10f0 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
           IF-ID-2: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-1.6:10 
           chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001 
           Report: ID: hci0 state: up address: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 639.02 GiB (45.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SSD PLUS 1000GB size: 931.52 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 00RL scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdg type: USB vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> 
           rev: 0002 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 903.16 GiB used: 639.02 GiB (70.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 12.85 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: 22.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 69 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1225 fan-2: 1008 gpu: nvidia fan: 40% 
           Power: 12v: N/A 5v: 2.98 3.3v: N/A vbat: 3.26 
Info:      Processes: 282 Uptime: 3h 52m wakeups: 0 Memory: 11.68 GiB used: 2.83 GiB (24.3%) Init: systemd v: 248 Compilers: 
           gcc: 11.1.0 clang: 12.0.0 Packages: 2399 pacman: 2396 snap: 3 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.8 running-in: yakuake inxi: 3.3.03

Looks like you are running on pipewire and i am not so that could be the difference.

  Device-1: AMD Ellesmere HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 470/480 / 570/580/590] 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 2d:00.1 
  chip-ID: 1002:aaf0 class-ID: 0403 
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.12.10-arch1-1 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 0.125.0 running: no 
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.30 running: no 
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Not sure what this one is?

 Sound Server-2: sndio v: N/A running: no 

Edit: I see it’s some midi framework?


Yes. I’m running on pipewire. But that shouldn’t make difference for hardware IDs. At least as far as understand the topic.

Sndio is a dependency of waybar.

yay -Qi waybar
Name                     : waybar
Version                  : 0.9.7-1
Beschreibung             : Highly customizable Wayland bar for Sway and Wlroots based compositors

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I just updated my Netbook, which is set up nearly identical to my Desktop. Sound working flawlessly there with the latest version of hwids. So the assumption that it is hardware related gained ground.

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Just got a bunch of updates to alsa.