This in response to @jackkileen in another thread about what G. Hinton did say.
[TIMESTAMP] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrK3PsD3APk&t=3900s (AI: What Could Go 
? With Geoffrey Hinton | The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart 2025 @ October 19, 2025)
JON STEWART: So let’s talk about that. I don’t know if-- what’s China’s role? Because they’re supposedly the big competitor in the AI race. That’s an authoritarian government. I think they have more controls on it than we do.
GEOFFREY HINTON: So I actually went to China recently and got to talk to a member of the politburo. So there’s 24 men in China who control China. I got to talk to one of them who did a postdoc in engineering at Imperial College London. He speaks good English. He’s an engineer. And a lot of the Chinese leadership are engineers. They understand this stuff much better than a bunch of lawyers.
JON STEWART: Did you come out of there more fearful? Or did you think, oh, they’re actually being more reasonable about guardrails?
GEOFFREY HINTON: If you think about the two kinds of risk, the bad actors misusing it and then the existential threat of AI itself becoming a bad actor-- for that second one, I came out more optimistic.
They understand that risk in a way American politicians don’t.
They understand the idea that this is going to get more intelligent than us, and we have to think about what’s going to stop it taking over. And this politburo member I spoke to really understood that very well.
And I think if we’re going to get international leadership on this, at present, it’s going to have to come from Europe and China. It’s not going to come from the US for another 3 and 1/2 years.
JON STEWART: What do you think Europe has done correctly in that?
GEOFFREY HINTON: Europe is interested in regulating it.
JON STEWART: Right.
GEOFFREY HINTON: It’s been good on some things. It’s still been very weak regulations, but they’re better than nothing. But European leaders do understand this existential threat of AI itself taking over.
JON STEWART: But our Congress, we don’t even have committees …