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Awesome to see one running EndeavorOS 
This is time standing still, a piece I will keep as is and not let another touch while I breathe, you could offer me a bagillion dollars I would still say no.
Life might seem short but it is long for those left here waiting to see their loved ones again. (struggling quite a bit tonight but I need to be here, I have people that need me and a cat that will starve if I leave, I ok just emontinal as not even sure hey,but I will be ok, this is part of life as painful as it is at times
Curious about Framework, do you think they’re good value? Are there other companies/competitors that aim to follow their stated “consumer-first” model?
Would love to have a Framework 13 Pro. 
yer I would too well anything a bitbetter, this pc just a golified laptip with no screeem sort of (I think, hard ware not my strong siote)
I’m coming up on three years of daily use with my Framework 13 (AMD Zen4, 7840U, 5GHz, 8C/16T). I’ve only ever run Linux on it, right from day one. It remains faster than my Zen3 16C/32T desktop.
Beyond the MediaTek wifi issues that everyone has had with AMD-based PCs, I’ve had no issues with it. (That issue was ironed out in kernel 6.8. Meanwhile I’ve also upgraded to an MT7927 for 6GHz.) Battery is still above 90% capacity which is on par with other laptops of similar age. But it is easily replaceable using only fingers and the screwdriver/spudger that comes with the computer.
As for value, it entirely depends on how you define the term. Depending on your viewpoint, Frameworks are either horribly overpriced, or a screaming deal.
Framework computers are not cheap. If you buy a price, not a computer, then you won’t like Framework. However, if you value durability and dependability over time, plus end-user repairability and upgradability, then it’s a screaming deal.
The way I see it, there are two ways to stretch your money on a computer. First, buy the cheapest POS you can find and plan on replacing it every two or three years. This is how most Americans buy their tech. (This is also how Dell, HP, et.al. get rich.) The second way is to buy quality and expect it to last for a decade or more. This can be shortened to “Buy nice, or buy twice”.
I’ve always leaned towards buying the best PC I could afford and using it for a decade or more without significant compromise. Framework fits that model.
I do the same thing, save up, buy the coolest thing i can find, keep it for 5+ years. People think im rich (i am not) because i buy high end/or the most modern/current piece of tech, but the thing is I always intent to keep it for as long as i can. my phone is now 5+ years old, my laptop 6+. and they are still great, i cant throw them away yet since they are still in very good shape (apart from my phone protection case falling apart, and the battery of both laptop and phone aging, but still in fine/ok shape).
I basically make 1 investment and it pays off in terms of, i dont need to seek replacement so soon. only downside: i wish i had a phone that is supported by grapheneos… well someday i will get one i guess, whenever mine becomes slow or i accidentally break something beyond repair
Yer my pcs are always old but suite how I use them. I would like something with a dedicated gpu at some point but also not going to go out my way - it a want not need
i have a framework 13 too:
Really like the buildquality and it works totally perfect on Linux now, it had issues but as of they do really listen to customers and people like me giving feedback these issues are resolved fast.
The framework 13 is a real workhorse even for high loads.
I do love it and to know i can upgrade and repair it in the future is a big big plus too.
If you want something cheap don’t go with Framework. I paid 3100$ CAD for the AI 7 350 with 32 GB of DDR5 and the touch screen no nvme because I had some spare. They would probably not be that high if there wasn’t a global memory shortage…
Quality wise, they are some of the best laptop i have seen in a while. Full metal frame with plasic screen bezel. Every part has been designed to be replaceable / upgradable. Tired of your board in 2 or 3 years or more ? Just buy a new one, it will fit right in the same series. Want a color screen bezel ? you can change it because it’s magnetic and you can buy new ones online. Want more usb or a 10gb adapter ? Buy one on their site and just plug it in. The touchscreen is matte and silky smooth to the touch which help with slide operations. The screen has vibrant color and nice darks. High resolution 2000+ pixels with 120 fps make everything smooth and crisp. The laptop itself is lighter than my old surface 7 pro I used before.
OS : They are built with linux in mind. There is zero thinkering when installing a distro at least for Endeavour. Everything works out of the box once you disable secure boot. No thinkering and installing obscure drivers or special kernel versions.
like @brucew i tend to buy the best I can with the money I have. My surface was bought in 2021 at the beginning of the year so it’s going on 6 years at this point and since it’s a Microsoft product I had to run a special kernels (linux-surface) on it to get the touchscreen and camera etc. to work. The kernel was not really up to date still being on 6.19.x
So I do not regret this purchase that is for sure.
I wish I could afford one. Maybe one day? But, not today! 
Last week I got a still-sealed package of “new old stock” Gillette Super Stainless double-edge razor blades. This Teflon-coated blade carried the nickname of “The Spoiler” as it was said to shave so well it would spoil you, and also spoil your like of any other blade. Bold claim. They are also said to provide an above-average number of shaves per blade.
This particular package of blades was manufactured in 1972.
They provide a nice shave and are very comfortable in use. I get just as good results from a number of modern blades, but these Spoilers do have an above-average smoothness to them while still being quite sharp (much sharper than a modern Gillette Silver Blue, for example).
I don’t know how many shaves I’ll get from one yet; so far I’ve only used one for 4 shaves.
Thank you (and @brucew), that is some helpful information. I wasn’t referring to value as in price alone, (not looking for a cheap PC), more asking whether you felt the things you pay for in getting a Framework machine (customizability, quality, repairability, etc) were worth the cost. For you all it sounds like they do. But sometimes the reality does not live up to the marketing so I wanted to ask your opinion. I do tend to strive for a less disposable, “buy it for life” mentality. Or said another way, “buy fewer, better things.”
Nice! Framework Laptop 13 Pro is absolutely a solid laptop! I love mine … I mean sure I am a little biased but it is also a fantastic machine so there’s that. 
Which model is that one? It say’s limited edition. Can’t find it on the site.
It’s a crush bass 50.
Nice to practice on and it’ll hopefully keep my neighbors away from my doorbell. It’s to small for rehearsals or small gigs in my opinion, while Orange claims the other way. But perfect for my flat situation and the integrated fuzz/overdrive in a 2nd blendable channel is optimal for some low volume stoner doom practice sessions 
I don’t know how limited it really is, but the price did only differ about 10 Euro from the regular version and I like the purple color way more than the original orange one so I grabbed the Glenn Hughes version, technical it is identical to the regular ones.
