This will happen in Arch, in any DE if the user doesn’t pay attention to the depends. It’s just a fact of life, and if Jesse had bothered to investigate further he would have considered it user-error.
That goes for all of us, as well. If I want to install an application that may be outside of the QT realm–(KDE for me) especially a GTK2/3/4-based application, I had better take the time to look at what I’m doing. And that’s really easy to do. I can start with the Arch listings: https://archlinux.org/packages/ Jesse’s not the only one to make such an error. I’ve made plenty of dumb shit moves, myself.
The only GUI part of the installer is that it is used to start the install processes which are not using a gui. Lets get real here. EndeavourOS is not a GUI installer but uses Calamares to facilitate the install that uses scripts and terminal based commands. Most distro’s are using Calamares as an installer but in a totally different manner.
They were my words, and part of welcoming folks and being welcomed somewhere rarely starts with
“Hey, y’all are doing something wrong.”
especially when you showed up on your own free will.
So welcome to Endeavour! We don’t ship an app store because it’s unnecessary. If you would like one, you should use one. If you don’t know how, people can help. If you don’t want to know how, Pop OS is fantastic and I suggest that for others.
and this is a discussion we seem to have had in the past. The terminal is a powerful tool and shall not be hidden, even not for newbies on arch based distros… long live the terminal way of installing software
I agree with the assertion that learning the command line interface is important for anyone who actually wants to fully utilize AND understand their system.
Graphical file management, convenient tools and other point and click mechanics can be useful and even quick for various things; we have a few too, such as the Welcome tool, where it’s possible to update the system; I use it from time to time, but I definitely want to use AND understand both pacman and yay, and indeed I do know them well enough to use them instead of the handy tools and certainly when I am looking for a package to install, update or remove for whatever reason.
For beginners and even for veterans trying out different software, a graphical tool can be helpful for a few days and weeks as someone tries a different system, but anyone serious about learning will want to understand the details as soon as possible; some people will want to start out understanding the details before trying something new; there is, after all, more than one way to learn and more than one way to do things.
Choice: ultimately isn’t that a key to freely available software?
It doesn’t matter within this community whether you have 1 year or 20 years using Linux.
Every user is welcomed here.
There’s absolutely no need to be condescending towards others. Any user can help anyone here if they have the desire to help and learn. There’s plenty of examples of that right here in this community. Throwing any arbitrary number out there to showcase your experience means absolutely nothing if you’re not using that experience to help better the community in a positive, constructive, and supportive way.
