# Remove Cheese

**URL:** <https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284>\
**Category:** Budgie\
**Created:** [December 10, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284 "2020-12-10T20:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/1 "2020-12-10T20:42:08Z")

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Whoever decided that a POS app that doesn’t even work on tons of machines and has nothing to do with anything else (despite guvcview and other webcam software working fine) being a prerequisite for gnome-control-center should be fired. This has existed for years and remains. Black screen that shouldn’t bother me, but it does. Any thoughts on deleting the app, deleting the line in the app list ot just maybe making Cheese work would be great.

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/2 "2020-12-10T20:47:52Z")

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cheese is a dependency for this 3 packages:

### Required By (3)

- [gnome-contacts](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gnome-contacts/)
- [gnome-control-center](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gnome-control-center/)
- [gnome-initial-setup](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/gnome-initial-setup/)

so uninstalling will remove them too.  
Nothing we can do on that downstream.

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**Author:** ![anon53396576](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@anon53396576](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon53396576)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/3 "2020-12-10T20:49:54Z")

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> [@sliding\_billy](#):
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> should be fired

Maybe someone should pay them first… 🤣

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**Author:** ![mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mandog/32/1490_2.png) [@mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/mandog)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/4 "2020-12-10T21:08:31Z")

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Under is the List of members in the Gnome group Nobody forces 4) cheese to be install its not a hard dep till its install

```auto
: There are 66 members in group gnome:
:: Repository testing
   1) gnome-keyring 2) networkmanager
:: Repository extra
   3) baobab 4) cheese 5) eog 6) epiphany 7) evince 8) file-roller 9) gdm
   10) gedit 11) gnome-backgrounds 12) gnome-books 13) gnome-calculator
   14) gnome-calendar 15) gnome-characters 16) gnome-clocks
   17) gnome-color-manager 18) gnome-contacts 19) gnome-control-center
   20) gnome-disk-utility 21) gnome-documents 22) gnome-font-viewer
   23) gnome-getting-started-docs 24) gnome-logs 25) gnome-maps
   26) gnome-menus 27) gnome-music 28) gnome-photos 29) gnome-remote-desktop
   30) gnome-screenshot 31) gnome-session 32) gnome-settings-daemon
   33) gnome-shell 34) gnome-shell-extensions 35) gnome-software
   36) gnome-system-monitor 37) gnome-terminal 38) gnome-themes-extra
   39) gnome-user-docs 40) gnome-user-share 41) gnome-video-effects
   42) gnome-weather 43) grilo-plugins 44) gvfs 45) gvfs-afc 46) gvfs-goa
   47) gvfs-google 48) gvfs-gphoto2 49) gvfs-mtp 50) gvfs-nfs 51) gvfs-smb
   52) mutter 53) nautilus 54) orca 55) rygel 56) sushi 57) totem
   58) tracker 59) tracker-miners 60) tracker3 61) tracker3-miners 62) vino
   63) xdg-user-dirs-gtk 64) yelp
:: Repository community
   65) gnome-boxes 66) simple-scan

```

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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/5 "2020-12-10T21:16:02Z")

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Clearly not very important compared to other dependencies there(though there are more that are only dependencies to keep people from removing them for the bloat that they are) since it just has to be there and not work. I get Ubuntu doing that stuff, but I can’t believe the Budgie team wouldn’t compile without some of that.

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**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/6 "2020-12-10T21:35:28Z")

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> [@sliding\_billy](#):
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> but I can’t believe the Budgie team wouldn’t compile without some of that.

It isn’t the budgie team. It is a packaging decision by the Arch packager for gnome.

Just to be clear, I am not criticizing. I am sure there is a reason that decision was made.

> [@mandog](#):
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> Under is the List of members in the Gnome group Nobody forces 4) cheese to be install its not a hard dep till its install

It is a required dependency of `gnome-control-center`.

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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/7 "2020-12-10T21:39:58Z")

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Fair enough, but I’ll be damned if I can think of the reason. Sloppy shared code that someone (not the Arch team or even Budgie) is too lazy to clean up is the only reason I can see.

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**Author:** ![mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mandog/32/1490_2.png) [@mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/mandog)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/8 "2020-12-10T22:07:43Z")

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We have had this before you know It never gets installed when i build gnome.

> [@sliding\_billy](#):
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> Fair enough, but I’ll be damned if I can think of the reason. Sloppy shared code that someone (not the Arch team or even Budgie) is too lazy to clean up is the only reason I can see.

The devs that make distros are to blame and its simple they just install meta package nothing more why do you think tweak-tool is not installed on most Gnome distros no Love that is why.

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/9 "2020-12-10T22:36:16Z")

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> [@mandog](#):
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> most Gnome distros

we are not even a GNOME Distro 😋  
[https://github.com/endeavouros-team/install-scripts/blob/2d3354bb888a1d09cf8c9d69704a7bd76216068e/netinstall.yaml#L218](https://github.com/endeavouros-team/install-scripts/blob/2d3354bb888a1d09cf8c9d69704a7bd76216068e/netinstall.yaml#L218)

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**Author:** ![mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mandog/32/1490_2.png) [@mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/mandog)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/10 "2020-12-10T23:10:04Z")

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I know EndeavourOS devs do care that the Desktops are functional I’m actually using the desktop but soon my trial with EndeavourOS is over I trial OSs for 3 months to see how they fare. I may even keep it along side my pride and joy Arch Linux.

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**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/11 "2020-12-11T02:43:58Z")

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This is my pride & joy! 😿 I use it for longer than 3 months. 😉

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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/12 "2020-12-11T05:24:27Z")

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I used Elementary for 2 years and just used my spar machine and VMs to “hop.” Seriously, LOL.

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**Author:** ![mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mandog/32/1490_2.png) [@mandog](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/mandog)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 8:22am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/13 "2020-12-11T08:22:23Z")

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> [@ricklinux](#):
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> This is my pride & joy! 😿 I use it for longer than 3 months. 😉

I used my pride and joy arch for over 15 years + 1 install beat that and then try and say Arch is not stable. Lol

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**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/14 "2020-12-11T16:00:47Z")

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I’m just having a litlle fun. Pride & Joy!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0vo23H9J8o8/maxresdefault.jpg "Stevie Ray Vaughan - Pride and Joy (Studio version)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vo23H9J8o8)

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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/15 "2020-12-11T16:39:55Z")

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I live in North Texas and have been playing guitar for almost 40 years. You can guess how much I love SRV. Plus, I’ve been on some combination of PC MS-DOS/Windows since PC DOS 3.2. Ouch!

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**Author:** ![sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sliding_billy/32/29271_2.png) [@sliding\_billy](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sliding_billy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/remove-cheese/10284/16 "2020-12-12T07:59:00Z")

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Rid myself of my Cheese issue. Well, I cheated and reinstalled Endeavour with Cinnamon. I have to admit it’s pretty perfect especially given my existing propensity for a Windows looking OS. Same issue I mentioned in another thread that I can’t close my laptop with all of my other monitors on and not make the system unusably slow. I sure wish I knew what the Elementary OS team did to make that work OK, but screw it. Laptop stays open even in desktop mode I guess.
