Rant, and best (MOST STABLE) linux free video editing software?

[ricklinux]

There is no common sense when you think that you are entitled to have what you want because.

[NX-01]

I do rather basic video editing for uploading to YouTube. Trimming, fade in, fade out, splitting, cutting and combining with transitions, nothing too fancy.

I started with Kdenlive but it was much too unstable and unreliable for me. Freezes, crashes and so on.

Next I tried OpenShot but I didn’t like it at all. And, AFAIR it didn’t even support Intel GPU encoding.

Next was Shotcut and that’s what I use since. It’s very stable, more or less easy to use and it has everything I need, including a very good Intel GPU support.

[Kresimir]

@RodneyCK

Stop comparing open source to capitalistic markets…there are no markets. I think that is the flaw in your processing. There is no one competing, no exchange of monetary goods. It is just programmers working on projects they care about, offering it up to the public for free. No demands, no expectations. I can tell that idea must shake your core.

Precisely. Free software is a gift to everyone, and you don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

Although, you can introduce capitalism into it indirectly, by hiring a developer to contribute to the FOSS project for you (or fork it if your vision of it is incompatible with the project’s authors). A lot of good development happens that way, Inkscape being a great example where a bunch of users are crowdfunding a developer to add features we need.

This is how a user can potentially become a customer, i.e. become entitled to have a say in the matter. It’s a very good way to get the features and bug fixes you want, but cannot (or don’t want to) code them yourself. Most of these Free Software projects have known authors, with public email addresses. A good place to start is contacting one of them and offering a donation in exchange for a bug fix or a new feature. Getting paid to work on Free software is many a programmer’s dream job.

[fbodymechanic]

@sentinel166

The “just fork it” is just stupid: Most people have no and will never have even a clue about programming and certainly not in the specific area of interest. And can not afford to invest in such interest, because… they have a life.
So when the appeal of money can’t work, shunning can.

So, are you offering to help the development team and make kdenlive more stable, or are you willing to drop a big check so they can pay someone to do that instead of just a team of enthusiasts on their free time??

I missed the post about how you were offering to help or remedy the situation.

“This free stuff sucks. And now you’re gonna hear about it.” - it’s FREE. Go pay for what you want then, there’s nothing stopping you. But is true with all things in life. Lots of complainers, not so many with a solution.

[sentinel166]

A solution to a problem that just shoudn’t be, but anyway…
Actually I didn’t think of paying them, that’s a good idea !
I don’t have the money but I would be curious to know how much would be needed to fix the glaring issues for good. Helping that way would be a significant boon for the community, I agree. Thanks Kresimir for reminding me of that possibility.

[fbodymechanic]

@sentinel166

A solution to a problem that just shoudn’t be, but anyway…
Actually I didn’t think of paying them, that’s a good idea !
I don’t have the money but I would be curious to know how much would be needed to fix the glaring issues for good.

No idea. You should contact them. I know companies like Adobe pay developers a salary and benefits. Plus initial research and development. Even just one lowly modest salary would be a good $50k/year. You’d likely have 3-5 on the team. Call it $250k/year and then they’d need time to catch up since other companies have been investing in their team for years. That way you could have a team that could put serious time in and not worry about doing 30 min of work each day in their free time.

Or you know, just complain free stuff isn’t as good as something that’s had probably millions invested into it by now. . .

[Kresimir]

@fbodymechanic

$50k/year

That comes down to about $20/hour, which seems very reasonable for simple programming tasks (depending on their location, of course).

Of course, without looking into specific cases, it’s impossible to know how many man-hours are needed to fix specific bugs. People who know how to estimate these numbers are usually employed as managers, and get a bit more than $50k/year (again, depending on location, in Croatia, where I live, for example, $20k/year is pretty good for a programmer).

[Echoa]

@sentinel166

lightworks on playlinux

Lightworks is Linux native…why use wine?

[DoyleRodriquez]

That is also the issue I am concerned with. I see that too.

[Data]

@ricklinux

@sentinel166

davince resolve

These programs are in the AUR but requires a license i assume.

They are available AUR even the 18Beta there is also the paid version.

[chromian]

Also keep an eye on :

https://www.olivevideoeditor.org/

Also why is no one talking about cinelerra? What happened to it?

[Echoa]

I think its different variants that aren’t at all updated the same (or haven’t been in years) doesn’t help its popularity.

When I used it I also just didn’t particularly enjoy it, with Lightworks and Davinci covering professionals and KdenLive, Flowblade, etc. covering everything else in a bit easier package it just fell by the wayside a bit.

[Kresimir]

ffmpeg, as stable and reliable as a mountain. Suitable for amateurs and professionals alike. Best user interface in the world.