Running windows off of physical media on bare metal isn’t really a VM, I don’t want to leave linux thats why i want to use wine or a VM…
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Boxes doesn’t really let me configure these things, right now i am experimenting with virt-manager and vmware and both have the default config
Running Windows off a usb is not the way to go. Use vmware worksation pro you won’t regret it.
Edit: virt-manager is okay but i prefer vmware.
Edit: Make sure you install open-vm-tools for vmware.
That’s correct but restarting into your Linux OS only takes seconds (on my machine anyway).
From my experience, there are no VM’s that handles Windows well, without glitches, slowdowns, pauses, etc.
Windows on Ventoy is the actual installation with persistence and the performance is the same as having installed on another drive or partition.
Another plus with creating a Ventoy drive is you can create, or drag and drop other unrelated files and folders to it right along side of all the iso OS’s, etc.
That may have been true at one time.
IMO it’s the only way to go since Ventoy came along, compared to trying to get Windows to perform in VM’s.
My USB drive is a 1TB SSD and all the OS’s on it perform like regular installs for every day use.
Before the 1TB SSD I used a 125GB thumb drive and still got the same performance using Ventoy.
Yes … I’ll agree with you on this but I’m referring to people who use jump sticks to run an OS off of which don’t work like SSD’s. Maybe in some particular use case it’s may be okay or then again the user may think it is okay compared to what? If they are comparing it to what they are using or what they are used to maybe. For me I’ve seen it all and done it all and I’m a desktop user for the most part with very high expectations. If a OS doesn’t respond on every single thing i do with the snap of a finger it’s too slow! Ventoy isn’t something i use or would recommend. Just not for me. I’m very particular about vm also. 
Did Windows not work well with it for you?
For me, it works just like it was installed on a hard drive in both the thumb drive and the SSD.
I just like an installed system vs a vm or running it from an external source whether it be a usb drive or thumb drive but especially a thumb drive. I do use sometimes a vm for somethings but not something i would want as a daily driver. An installed system using m.2 nvme drives with Pci-e 4.0 or even 3.0 is night and day compared to a thumb drive if you are used to not only fast read and write speeds but, powerful and also more quicker data transfer. Windows i try not to use as much as possible. It’s EOS 99.9% of the time. 
I dont think running an OS on a thumb stick would be wise for my use case (High CPU, disk (including temp writes) and I/O) and besides that, I’ve done some research and concluded that at least until i discover some loop holes, VMs just cant get enough priority to whats running on them to keep audio stable resulting in constant undderruns. Also the performance is not fantastic. I’ll see what my other options are
Using Ventoy is not the same thing as burning an ISO to a removable drive, It’s basically the same as installing the OS to a hardrive.
You just drag and drop the OS’s into drive and they are there to boot up.
For many OS’s on Ventoy you can use persistence which is the same as installing to a hardrive. Every time you boot it, it returns to exactly where you left off, all installed apps are there, files haven’t changed, etc.
My Windows 11 in Ventoy remembers everything I do with it when I boot it the next time, doesn’t lag or is slow or glitchy.
I know I’m kinda late to the topic. I’m required by work to use windows for certain internal applications, as well as MS Office and Outlook. I’ve used both VMware Professional and Virtualbox, though currently I run Virtualbox because I couldn’t find a crack and didn’t feel like renewing my license.
I have it permanently running, full screen seamless on my second monitor. Initially I tried boxes and virtmanager and never got great performance out of them. I find you need the guest additions stuff installed to get optimal performance out of your VM. Also since I run Windows 11 you really need to grab the de-bloat scripts, and rip all the stupidity out, after that it runs very nicely.
The best solution here is to try again with another DAW. Tracktion Waveform is another option. There’s also Reaper — way less flashy, but just as powerful.
When it comes to DAWs, the best thing to do is use something that has a native Linux version to get the best performance.
I have both of my suggestions installed, and they run just as they did on Windows.
Some more alternatives: https://alternativeto.net/software/ableton-live/?platform=linux
Another alternative (though I’ve never tried it): https://alternativeto.net/software/muse/about/
I personally use virt-manager and haven’t had much of an issue with it. I use it for a work-from-home VM for my Microsoft-heavy workplace. We/they have enterprise GP’s/Intune Policies which disables a lot of the telemetry and tracking though. I’d recommend a script to disable that stuff if your using one of the home users versions without said GP’s, like Home or Professional. I personally used Chris Titus’s WinUtil when I was running Windows full time.
Looking at your hardware, VM’s are quite doable. The only challenge I’d see is storage space, which I don’t see on your fetch. It’s okay to play around with different VM managers to see which one works best/is easiest to setup for your case.
It depends strongly on your needs.
Do you just need it overall working pretty well with no particular needs one way or another? Use VMWare Player.
Do you need the best CPU performance you can get but don’t care all that much about graphical performance? Use Qemu (i recommend doing this through virt-manager)
Do you need the best CPU performance you can get and enough gpu power to lpay games like you’re on native windows? Get a spare gpu and use VGA passthrough with Qemu and Looking Glass (also recommended doing through virt-manager).
There are your 3 answers. Setting up vmware player is super easy, any monkey could do it. Setting up a qemu vm is very hard without virt-manager but fairly straight forward with it (still requires a little bit of research, but at least you’re working with GUI tools here). Setting up VGA passthrough is very complex, even experienced administrators may be intimidated by it, but when it works, it’s like you’re not even in a VM anymore you just have straight up native performance.
Without it however, getting even a decent 60fps display out of qemu is virtually impossible (i’ve tried, there’s just no way, used to be you could patch qemu so that spice would display at higher framerates but it doens’t seem to work anymore, at least not for virt-viewer or remmina or any of the typical spice viewers).
Don’t bother with virtualbox, it’s only really decent for running linux VMs and even then only about as good a Vmware at it.