Quad9: Is good?

Yes this happened years ago Maby 2018-2019?

Finding a link to the story can be hard to find I’m not good att finding old stuff and media sites do delete stuff, Maby you have luck with WayBack Machine?.

But anyway it shows that smaller DNS providers can be targeted by companies and loose sure thy got a small win against Sony but a small win and that was just about Copyright stuff.

BTW CloudFlair has given out info about protesters and other in tbe past to and I would not trust them ether.

Mullvad VPN and DNS can be trusted as thy don’t log anything!(thy tried to raid and get info but thy had nothing to give.

Thy can be trusted speed wise? So so speed and uptime from my own test their VPN is better and with more secure and faster DNS.

That’s what I did when I decided to have DoH on my system (Unbound+Dnscrypt-proxy).
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Quad9 has nothing to do with Cloudflare, it happens with any DNS server as long as the website use Cloudflare services.

That’s where I found Dns0.eu, they do at least the minimum I need regarding privacy :

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We’re not on social media, do your homework, it’s your job to back it up, not other people’s.

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This is how I do it with pihole:

All preconfigured DNS servers deselected, only the two DNS4EU servers added. During my testing I found that the secondary server has faster response than the primary server. Therefor I have the *.200 address first.

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You can ask google, or any other classical search engine or chatgpt or perplexity. There is nothing shown.

chatgpt summary:
As of now, there are no known cases where Quad9 has suffered a data leak or disclosed user data to authorities.

Lets close this here. There is no evidence for your claim.

Yeah no I won’t try to find some old news from years ago it’s not my job because people are lazy and did not pay attention at the time it was reported.

I did find one that thy won a small victory agenst Sony that is as far as I got.

And as I said I’m bad at finding older stuff.

The ball’s in your court @SCORPION2000. I’ve looked, found nothing. Others have looked and found nothing. The evidence I did find (eg: this Reddit post / Wayback version), points to nothing more than one guy’s imagination.

Quoting the executive director of Quad9 who responded in that Reddit thread:

Hi. I’m the Executive Director of Quad9. First off, let me get to the “TL;DR” summary: No, we don’t share your personal data with anyone. This is not a Personal Data collection tool for government or private purposes, and we’re quite serious about that component of our charter. We don’t even write it to disk or transmit it out of the POP.

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Yeah i don’t use or trust “Ai” or rather LLM’s.

Thy are full of bullshit.

ok, guys lets go back to the original topic of the thread and forget about this noise.

quad9 is a solid choice for a DNS server. If you like it, go for it. It is fast and reliable and does not log user data like IP addresses.

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Eh…Mullvad would be a better choice.

Hell even CloudFlair.

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What’s actually difference between DNS and VPN? Because I have no experience about DNS before this thread and the fact that I dug little bit about Quad9. How does it differ from VPN?

I’m not certain if I ever end up using one, but would like to know it’s benefits compared to VPN.

Just genuinely asking, because this is mystery to me. :sweat_smile:

DNS is completely different to VPN. When you go to a site like https://forum.endeavouros.com, the computer doesn’t know about it. It works with ip Addresses. DNS converts from human readable domain names to computer readable ip addresses.

VPN is a private network. VPN still uses DNS.

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Lets start with spelling out the acronyms:

DNS = Domain Name Server
VPN = Virtual Private Network

A DNS translates host names into ip addresses. humans need host names to remember and use in URLs etc. But computers need ip addresses to send packages. hence, a server is needed to translate name to ip address, like google.com=142.250.184.238. Without DNS the internet does not work. DNS is a must have.

VPN is a network technology with which you can securely connect to computers. Normal internet packages travel through several other computers (routers) before they reach their destination. Each router could potentially look into the packages and see the data and eventually manipulate the data inside the packages. Malicious activity. To prevent that you can build up a VPN between your laptop/PC and your destination, e.g. the login server of your company. No router can look inside packages that you send through a VPN. Its a security feature. I would say that every company which offers home office to their employees also offers a VPN to connect the home office to the company network.

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Thanks @MyNameIsRichard and @mbod! :slightly_smiling_face:

To make things even more complicated, with VPN setups you can have the DNS (name resolving)

  • go completely through the tunnel (possibly losing local machine name resolving),
  • stay completely with your system DNS (local machines resolved, but your ISP will know where you go on the VPN)
  • or split (trying to resolve local names locally but everything else going through the VPN tunnel)

That said, browsers might still use their own DNS (or DoH, DoT, etc.). And there’s a difference in setting it up in one machine only, or in your router/local DNS resolver (PiHole etc.).

It has become a complicated world. Just because some biggies want to fence you in, spy you out, or just make money off your data.

In most cases unless there is some good known important reason to do otherwise .. the DNS while using the VPN should be that provided by the VPN. If it is not then that is normally referred to as a DNS leak.

I have a network infrastructure that (mostly) requires split DNS.

But yes, the “normal” use case would be using what your VPN provider offers (usually tunneling all DNS traffic, or at least using the VPN provider’s DNS).

I don’t wish to undermine your great explanation there, just a small point of clarification though. DNS stands for Domain Name System.

When one says “DNS server”, they’re not saying “Domain Name Server server”, they’re saying “Domain Name System server”.

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I have now switched the DNS servers on my router to Mullvad’s as well.
They use dns-blocklists which in combination with something like uBlock Origin could be pretty sufficient or so it seems.

https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls#how-adblock

Please comment if you feel like to. I would appreciate to get more perspectives on this.

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I am also looking at Unbound. If you can make a post about it went for you, what issues did you face and how you resolved them that would be helpfull.

About Firefox or its variants, using their own DNS resolver, I did not know that. From what I gather, Firefox only has one place to set DNS over HTTPS. It is available in Settings > Privacy and Security > DNS Over HTTPS. Can you please elaborate on how to switch off Firefox internal DNS resolving and switch to the systems DNS resolving?

I did not know that this afflicts all the services hosted by Cloudflare when the request is made by people not using Cloudflare/Google DNS servers.