Post your pacman -Qm

I understand . . . . no longer being developed. The big question is what was the purpose to begin with? Everything begins with an understanding maybe software programs can have a purpose or need to fulfill, and at some point fails because it suffers from time constraints and programmers not willing to spend time programming to improve functionality. So what are we left with? The very nature of programming and hardware improvements make this all a slippery slope for everyone. Nothing is static. . . everything is all on a moving conveyor. . . Windblow’s was the prime metric. . . it worked until they decided to make your computer theirs, your money was theirs and then they decided to take away everyone’s freedom by packaging everything into a proprietary quagmire that nobody wants, needs or willing to pay for. It’s a dilemma . . . pull the plug on all of this and see what’s left. . .

Rich :wink:

With my AUR-Packages, I can run yay -Syu as before, cause all tests against Lenucksi’s list were negative. The storm is over for me.
Here’s my list, and I had to get AUR-Packages in the midst of the malware storm, but I had scanned the packages like the pope himself, so intensively.

[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$ expac --timefmt='%Y-%m-%d %T' '%l %n' $(pacman -Qmq) | sort
2024-10-30 23:47:53 presage
2024-11-05 18:35:31 gtk2
2024-11-09 12:01:34 recorder
2024-11-09 12:01:34 screen-git
2024-12-20 03:19:14 masterpdfeditor-free
2025-01-05 23:15:19 p7zip-gui
2025-01-18 23:27:15 maliit-keyboard
2025-05-21 08:14:48 maliit-framework
2025-08-02 01:54:57 electron25-bin
2025-08-19 18:19:20 popsicle
2025-10-14 08:38:38 xsane
2025-11-02 12:46:59 appimagelauncher
2025-12-19 18:47:04 pacseek
2026-01-01 20:59:25 qt-sudo
2026-01-01 20:59:25 xwaylandvideobridge
2026-01-21 09:47:58 splix
2026-04-26 10:47:23 brother-dcpj1200w
2026-04-27 07:18:53 octopi
2026-04-27 07:18:53 ventoy-bin
2026-05-18 23:19:50 patool
2026-05-18 23:19:50 python-fvs
2026-05-18 23:19:50 python-pathvalidate
2026-05-18 23:19:50 python-steamgriddb
2026-05-18 23:19:50 vkbasalt-cli
2026-05-18 23:20:05 bottles
2026-05-19 02:18:24 typora
2026-05-19 07:16:42 zoom
2026-05-20 01:58:47 low_latency_layer-git
2026-05-23 21:30:33 kcm-grub2-git
2026-05-23 21:37:28 fvs2
2026-05-28 11:20:31 qt5-remoteobjects
2026-05-31 01:44:16 brscan5
2026-06-10 20:03:50 python-inputs
2026-06-10 20:03:50 python-steam
2026-06-10 20:04:11 protonup-qt
2026-06-13 03:02:35 brave-bin
2026-06-21 17:45:34 libsoup
2026-06-21 17:53:55 pamac-classic-fixed
2026-06-22 01:22:00 clementine
[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$ pacman -Qmq
appimagelauncher
bottles
brave-bin
brother-dcpj1200w
brscan5
clementine
electron25-bin
fvs2
gtk2
kcm-grub2-git
libsoup
low_latency_layer-git
maliit-framework
maliit-keyboard
masterpdfeditor-free
octopi
p7zip-gui
pacseek
pamac-classic-fixed
patool
popsicle
presage
protonup-qt
python-fvs
python-inputs
python-pathvalidate
python-steam
python-steamgriddb
qt-sudo
qt5-remoteobjects
recorder
screen-git
splix
typora
ventoy-bin
vkbasalt-cli
xsane
xwaylandvideobridge
zoom
[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$ find ~/.npm ~/.bun 2>/dev/null | grep -E 'atomic-lockfile|js-digest'
[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$ 

What do you use this for? What in yor system depends on it?

pactree -r electron25-bin

Looks it was EOL already back in Dec. 2023.

Oh, didn’t recognize it.
[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$ pactree -r electron25-bin
electron25-bin
[petermb@EndeavourOSNeo-Machine ~]$

It cannot appear in the orphan list due it’s an AUR-Package, right?
Is there a command for AUR orphrans?:thinking:
But it must have been a dependency a while ago (2025-08-02)

Did you try already pacman -Qqtd ?

This shows nothing is depending on it.

You can always try:

sudo pacman -R electron25-bin

and see what pacman says.

Dalto told me also that it is outdated. Wonder why it was Explicitly installed on Sa 02 Aug 2025 and was not in the orphan list I had these days?

I would just remove it.

I’ll delete it, and we’ll see what happens!

definitely two schools of thought on that one, I like your honesty. I’ve had a developer tell me at another distro that unused packages, accumulation, and extra packages don’t do any harm to anything as far as performance so I figured he would know. That’s a common Linux POV.

The flip side is if you were using Windows right, you’d be getting a virus a day having to defrag monthly. Once I carried that baggage to Linux I realized Linux Don’t Play that Sh**.. So I took advantage having an environment I could keep clean and uncluttered.

Flip sides of the same coin for sure

Just nvidia drivers and some Gnome apps. low risk AUR setup IMHO. Not sure how I feel yet about traur, but I’m just waiting for an AUR update to check out its hook.

scott@endeavourOS:~$ pacman -Qm
cine 1.5.4-1
gpu-screen-recorder-gtk 5.7.9-1
gradia 1.13.0-3
libxnvctrl-580xx 580.159.04-1
minecraft-launcher 1:2.1.3-3
nvidia-580xx-dkms 580.159.04-1
nvidia-580xx-settings 580.159.04-1
nvidia-580xx-utils 580.159.04-1
opencl-nvidia-580xx 580.159.04-1
parabolic 2026.5.0-1
pins 2.4.6-1
refine 0.8.0-1
traur 0.4.1-1

It is not only about drive space but also the time it takes during a update, the packages get build the same way as when first installed. Furthermore if you are worried about malicious packets (I misunderstood that yesterday to be honest) the less you have from the AUR the better, but that is just how I see it, you might think different.

Doing a quick search about stacer I came across this site.

But in general if you want to know something about what a package does one way of ffinding out is to look for it in Pacseek and in the right column you will find some links you can click on.
On another note in my opinion the AUR is not another repository that would be needed for your system (in general, there are always exceptions) so it contains packages that are uploaded and maintained by ARCH users, ofcourse if a maintainer stops to maintain a package there is not a lot you can do about it. That is the nature of the AUR and users should realize this before using the AUR.

i did pacman -Qm but nothing returns so i guess my re-install from some time ago did work as supposed to work :wink:

Suprise :laughing: it’s empty,

~> pacman -Qm
~ [1]>

with whatever crap that is going on at AUR these days, I have shortened my list to just these now

akya@hexy ~> pacman -Qm
brlaser 6.2.8-1
prowlarr-bin 2.5.2.5491-1
radarr-bin 6.3.0.10514-1
sonarr-develop-bin 4.0.19.2995-1