# POP\_Os Cosmic desktop

**URL:** <https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [January 13, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608 "2022-01-13T15:56:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/1 "2022-01-13T15:56:39Z")

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OMG! Ubuntu:

> **[Your First Look at System76's Rust-Based Desktop Experience - OMG! Ubuntu!](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/01/heres-our-first-look-at-system76s-rust-based-desktop-environment)**
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> If you've been itching to hear some progress about System76's new desktop environment, you're in luck! Developer Eduardo Flores went hands on with early

May try and build it later, but it is not a million miles away from Gnome 😃

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**Author:** ![manyroads](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manyroads/32/5885_2.png) [@manyroads](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manyroads)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/2 "2022-01-13T16:05:51Z")

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Not a very informative article…

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**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/3 "2022-01-13T16:37:17Z")

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That is what happens when you base on article off of another article…

This seems to be the original post.

> **[Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment](https://blog.edfloreshz.dev/articles/linux/system76/rust-based-desktop-environment/)**
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> This article intends to shine a light at the development of a new desktop environment for the Pop!\_OS operating system.

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**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/4 "2022-01-13T16:38:18Z")

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It’ll be interesting to follow how this goes, I think it’s a cool idea to keep their product as they want it without relying on gnome.

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**Author:** ![dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dbarronoss)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/5 "2022-01-13T17:57:04Z")

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Thanks for sharing…I am interested in what they do to differentiate themselves. I mean there’s not really any point in completely duplicating Gnome in Rust…so they must be headed in some different directions?

I’d also be interested in EFL development status on Solus, when it starts?

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**Author:** ![Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/echoa/32/77553_2.png) [@Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Echoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/6 "2022-01-13T18:12:38Z")

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Assuming it doesnt just end up being Gnome clone and actually has nice usability features and makes it easy to apply ICC profiles id use it.

Idgaf about the whole “muh rust” hype, but im all for another DE with features i like if Gnome Devs completely shit the bed in the future lol 🙃

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**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/7 "2022-01-13T18:13:57Z")

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It’s a totally new desktop. Gnome is out!

> **[Oh, Wow! Pop!\_OS Linux Devs Are Creating a New Rust-based Desktop Environment](https://news.itsfoss.com/pop-os-cosmic-rust/)**
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> Earlier this year, System76 introduced their desktop environment (DE) “COSMIC” based on GNOME.
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> The COSMIC desktop aimed to offer a polished and more functional experience when compared to GNOME.
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> Considering my previous experience with...

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**Author:** ![Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/echoa/32/77553_2.png) [@Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Echoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/8 "2022-01-13T18:15:18Z")

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yeah but the question is are they just making gnome in rust? or actually going to have serious differences that make it worth using.

If its just a clone theres not really a point, its fine for Pop users but if that ends up the case then i dont care about it.

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**Author:** ![Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/echoa/32/77553_2.png) [@Echoa](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Echoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/9 "2022-01-13T18:18:09Z")

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This is what Im hoping Cosmic doesnt end up being lol

![](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/1/a1845651c2bd0fae1e1fbd675a661f6f75cf6a5a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TurkeyJohn](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/turkeyjohn/32/17043_2.png) [@TurkeyJohn](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/TurkeyJohn)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/10 "2022-01-13T18:40:13Z")

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Looks promising so far. I am more concerned about the extension support. Also, why GTK? Why not QT or just pure rust? I thought they tried to get out of Gnome as much as possible?

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**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/11 "2022-01-13T18:43:13Z")

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> [@TurkeyJohn](#):
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> Also, why GTK?

Probably because their users (and maybe their developers) are accustomed to a gtk-based system.

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> or just pure rust?

Building an entire DE without using a toolkit would be substantially more work. They probably don’t have the budget or time for that.

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> I thought they tried to get out of Gnome as much as possible?

I am not sure that is really their goal. I haven’t seen it stated anywhere at least.

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**Author:** ![blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/blind_confused/32/92188_2.png) [@blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/blind_confused)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/12 "2023-11-02T17:39:39Z")

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> [@TurkeyJohn](#):
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> Also, why GTK? Why not QT or just pure rust?

> [@dalto](#):
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> Building an entire DE without using a toolkit would be substantially more work. They probably don’t have the budget or time for that.

err… it’s not GTK. They’re using a Rust toolkit called Iced.  
although, obviously, they will still make GTK and Qt apps work on their new DE, with theming too, as much as possible.

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**Author:** ![Svartis](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/svartis/32/108386_2.png) [@Svartis](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Svartis)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/13 "2023-11-02T18:15:30Z")

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Well Pop! OS seems to bee very solid. And I really like the Pop! Shell at it’s current state.

If their independent DE works as near as good or even better as paired with Gnome, I’ll switch to it without hesitation. Hopefully they will release it for other distros, too.

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**Author:** ![blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/blind_confused/32/92188_2.png) [@blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/blind_confused)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/14 "2023-11-02T18:20:31Z")

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> [@Svartis](#):
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> Hopefully they will release it for other distros, too.

they will, it’s been officially confirmed for a while, though the exact implementation will still depend on the maintainers of each distro

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**Author:** ![Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/kresimir/32/73739_2.png) [@Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Kresimir)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/15 "2023-11-03T20:51:55Z")

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![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/6/76f4681a4ba073976bb3a0cc549570ae0f8ec807.jpeg)  
The design is really butt-ugly. It looks like a slightly better, more consistent ɢɴᴏᴍᴇ.

Personally, I hate those switches. I find them to be soul-crushingly ugly. Like a poorly designed website, nagging me to enable cookies. I prefer checkboxes.

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**Author:** ![blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/blind_confused/32/92188_2.png) [@blind\_confused](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/blind_confused)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/16 "2023-11-03T21:05:00Z")

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well… I have to say that it’s very subjective, because I like the way it looks. Although I would still change some things, overall it feels good to me.

it’s just really not your thing, I guess :d

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**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/17 "2023-11-03T21:15:06Z")

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It’s unfinished and rapidly changing, for example i really like that much more than what you call butt-ugly above 😂

[![](https://images.prismic.io/blog-system76/6c7be1fb-2c1d-4531-b5a1-8edec1ea3cc4_image5.gif) ](https://images.prismic.io/blog-system76/6c7be1fb-2c1d-4531-b5a1-8edec1ea3cc4_image5.gif)

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**Author:** ![sorn](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@sorn](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sorn)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/18 "2024-07-14T13:09:09Z")

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Hi, there!

Now that Cosmic Desktop reached “almost, but surely… albeit not really yet, but come on it’s practically done, so…” alpha stage, is there any movement on “our” side to see if it’d be functional and integrated with Endeavour OS?

Besides users trying out the alphas/betas because it’s fun and nice and why not, is there an intention over here to theme it, pack it with iso’s… this kind of thing?

Just wondering. And possibly wasting everybody’s time, but hey!.. well, that.

Thanks for any pointers to info I sadly probably missed.

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**Author:** ![dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dbarronoss)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/19 "2024-07-14T14:20:06Z")

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Works fine for me. Been running it occasionally for months.

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**Author:** ![mihalycsaba](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mihalycsaba/32/70916_2.png) [@mihalycsaba](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/mihalycsaba)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pop-os-cosmic-desktop/22608/20 "2024-07-14T15:23:32Z")

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So what does it do other than it looks different?

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