# Plasmashell crashing when starts up **URL:** \ **Category:** Plasma\ **Created:** [April 21, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789 "2021-04-21T07:32:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/1 "2021-04-21T07:32:01Z")
Plasma starts but it crashes in the begining, leaving me with a black wallpaper, no main panel nor context menu on desktop. `Latte-dock` isn’t broken so It’s showing up and I can use it, as well as I can call `krunner` and launch any program (`firefox`, `kedit`, etc). Running on wayland. Looking up for a similar behaviour as mine I have found matches[1](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-starts-up-broken/9606/9),[2](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/main-panel-desktop-fail-to-load/13672/6), but trying what they say in it’s threads doesn’t help me (tried the `plasmashell --replace` script, tried also `kstart5 plasmashell`) It broken from last kde-framework and qt libs update (I think it was 1 or 2 weeks ago, don’t remember exactly). I’m not using this computer right now so I was waiting for a patch/workaround/fix or whatever to appear, but it isn’t so maybe someone has the same bug and own a way to fix it? PS: plasma bug app can’t achieve enough logs to send it to bug tracker (at least this is what it’s saying). ![plasma-crash](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/9/892de34e777cd4fef1754f66fa2e76795d28e3b0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/2 "2021-04-21T07:42:24Z")
Have you installed any applets? Themes? Does the x11 version work? You could try resetting plasma to defaults: ```auto lookandfeeltool -a org.kde.breeze.desktop #log out/in ``` If that doesn’t work: ```auto cd /home//.config mkdir plasma-old mv *rc plasma-old/ mv kdeglobals plasma-old/ reboot ``` Never tried this on wayland 😃 ---
**Author:** ![otherbarry](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/otherbarry/32/10801_2.png) [@otherbarry](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/otherbarry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/3 "2021-04-21T10:44:34Z")
> [@utomas](#): > > Running on wayland. So X11 is running fine? ---
**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/4 "2021-04-21T16:08:20Z")
I have been running plasma for quite some time and i don’t find these issues that seem to pop up here. From what i see it happens because of too many changes and additions to the plasma desktop. Themes, Icons and settings. Why does everyone want to call things a bug when it gets messed up? ---
**Author:** ![subluminal](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@subluminal](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/subluminal)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/5 "2021-04-21T16:28:06Z")
Not all themes, latte and widgets work in all plasma version. Just something to keep in mind. ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:10am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/6 "2021-04-22T08:10:02Z")
Tried both suggestions with no luck. Thanks anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/7 "2021-04-22T08:23:58Z")
It is, and once I logged into X11’s and relogged to Wayland _problem_ disappear. Thanks! I should mark this as solved ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/8 "2021-04-22T08:26:12Z")
I’m not the kind of guy who tries out all plasma’s plugin catalogue so I’ve always lived with one or two extra plugins, It didn’t happen before. Now I’m aware of that, thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/9 "2021-04-22T08:36:42Z")
> Why does everyone want to call things a bug when it gets messed up? It happen when a qt/plasma version update so I thought it was a bug, besides that, I’m not a developer and the definition of bug may not be as clear as yours. > From what i see it happens because of too many changes and additions to the plasma desktop. I’ve only 2 plugins downloaded, Compact ShutDown and PlasmaConfigSave, both running fine before the update, and I’ve the same exact configuration on my laptop running plasma on fedora, never happened before on both sides. ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/10 "2021-04-22T08:40:07Z")
How can I edit OP to mark as solved? I’m not familiar with this kind of forum…😛 ---
**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/11 "2021-04-22T12:41:35Z")
I do understand what you are saying and Welcome to EndeavourOS. I’m glad it’s working for you now. Plasma is quite good and and i run mine on X11. Wayland is working quite well also. Just can click on the three dots … and check solution on the post where you said it was solved above. ---
**Author:** ![utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/58f4c7/32.png) [@utomas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/utomas)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/12 "2021-04-23T12:56:05Z")
Thank you very much 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ea52f9fd5ef8e609e593c362d61a36295f48be8.png) [@system](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/plasmashell-crashing-when-starts-up/13789/13 "2021-04-25T12:57:00Z")
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