Plasma 6 with Wayland or X11 option and qt 6 ported Calamares, meet Gemini

[nicknick]

@joekamprad

@nicknick

next time it will have 2 versions of drivers, “nvidia” and “nvidia-dkms”?

no they will conflict:
conflicts=('NVIDIA-MODULE' 'nvidia')
So if you have the one installed and install the other it force you to remove the other in the process.

@nicknick

difference there is between the proprietary “nvidia” drivers and the proprietary “nvidia-dkms” drivers.

The difference is the way they work to install them, as nvidia modules are kernel agnostic aka… they need to be build against the used kernel to work. DKMS version is doing this for all installed kernels every time kernel updates automatically and locally, if you are using the non-dkms package it will be build only against one kernel and in case you p.e. install the LTS kernel, you will need to install nvidia-lts package to have the modules for the LTS kernel in addition.

The reason for having dkms package used by default is that it is in cases more fail proof.
In case nvidia package reaches the repo later or earlier as the kernel package … you would have a no-video boot… And yea if user install LTS kernel and not the needed nvidia-lts package it would be the same. But on the initial install process inside the ISO chroot the nvidia module build with dkms is causing some systems to freeze up, what is contra productive… causing an issue with the implementation to have less issues… not ideal…

You can simply install with nvidia option and exchange the nvidia packages with the dkms versions after the first boot into newly installed system… nvidia-inst have the option to do that.

I do not think there is any difference on performance between the two ways to get the nvidia modules into your system, the only difference is that dkms version is building them on your machine directly., while the non dkms versions are build on the arch build server and you download them with the package install.

Thank you very much, this finally answered all my questions!

So is it possible that DKMS will be incorporated by default into the EOS ISO in the future when these issues are fixed?

@johnkizer

@Bryanpwo

Gparted is back on the ISO in addition to KDE partitionmanager – Gparted returned as an option to use on the Live environment, since several users pointed out that they were missing some options KDE partition manager lacks.

A wonderful choice, well in line with the philosophy of giving the user great tools right out of the gate. Gparted has successfully edited NTFS partitions with no data loss that the Windows Disk Management utility wasn’t able to handle!

Overall, seems like a very well-timed ISO release. Congratulations!

What is the difference between Gparted and its equivalent KDE Partition Manager, and why do people prefer Gparted?

Does KDE Partition Manager format hard drives wrong or something? Do you recommend using Gparted?

I use EOS KDE 6.0, so using my logic as a new and ignorant EOS user, I thought the most appropriate thing to do was to use KDE Partition Manager on the KDE desktop, since I thought Gparted was for Gnome.

I mean, I guess you can use any program on any desktop, but I thought KDE Partition Manager would work better on KDE for better compatibility or something, and Gparted would work better on Gnome, or something.

Surely everything I said is wrong, sorry! So which one should I use?

[joekamprad]

there are only some options different in the end… gparted and partitionmanager are very similar from the looks but also different from the used tools and libs a bit.

Some stuff is working with the one and not with the other, in addition, users are used to gparted and so it is easier to use because they know how.

@nicknick

So is it possible that DKMS will be incorporated by default into the EOS ISO in the future when these issues are fixed?

Possible yes, but the initial idea to use the dkms version by default is from back in time already, it is simple the easier idea to use it… As of it is working for all kernels, and it is implemented to get rebuilt in case kernels updating … What could save from situations when NVIDIA package and kernel are not evenly updated (mismatching) but this is rare case nowadays, and we have other ways to inform about such situations implemented.

[falparsi]

Dear Alfred Pennyworth,
around 2022/23 I was all into EOS and was then exited. Mid 2023 I returned to Debian GNU/Linux Sid because of some issues, which I do not want to mention here. Now - coming across the announcement of the new release of GEMINI - I had to give it a try anew. I installed the GNOME-Desktop on a Thinkpad-P70 machine. Installation and configuration of the proton-vpn-gtk-app (plus additional needed network-manager-applet) and protonmail-desktop via AUR was put flawlessly. I would like to thank the whole team and the community of EOS for this great accomplished task. Because of this a donation was obligatory for me.
Free greetings for a free society
Falparsi

[Bryanpwo]

Thank you very much.