@Bryanpwo @joekamprad @ricklinux
Thanks for spending your time to help me. I appreciate that.
This is purposely a long posting and detailed posting. No. It’s not a wall of text. But I don’t want to keep going back and forth with you guys about this. I need to get some work done.
I installed Endeavor OS for the first time about five days ago. At that time, after I installed Endeavor OS, I was able to see my Wi-Fi network immediately. I was pleased with the experience.
Specifically, at that time I did not need to follow the…
Sure. I can follow the ath9k instructions. Believe it or not, I was looking at those very instructions last night as I began to install Arch Linux because I was curious to see what installing it was like. As I got deeper and deeper into the Arch Linux instructions (which actually aren’t too bad) I essentially decided, “Nope. I’m not dealing with this hassle. I am neither interested in becoming a Linux sys admin nor a Linux hobbyist.”
Despite that, I have spun up myriad servers on VPSes and installed various applications via a terminal (onto mostly Ubuntu and CoreOS). I clearly remember spending scores of hours figuring out how to “simply” install shopping cart software and trouble ticket software.
Frankly, I’ve decided to learn Ansible to both configure some servers I need to set up (no, I am not looking forward to doing Linux sys admin work but good Linux sys admins tend to be expensive and difficult to deal with) and to set up my local machines. I’ve watched a bunch of Ansible videos. It looks remarkably powerful yet not too difficult to use for my relatively simple needs. I particularly like the fact that I can download Ansible playbooks from Ansible’s website so that I won’t need to reinvent the wheel.
Therefore, believe it or not, I am very probably capable of installing Arch Linux. Yeah. “The real thing.” But, frankly, I would prefer to watch paint dry than do any more “Linux stuff” than I need to. Therefore, I presume I can successfully follow the ath9k instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration/Wireless#Atheros.
But. Well. See. Here’s the thing. I’m not normally connected to the Internet via an ethernet cable. It’s actually a little bit of a hassle for me to connect to the Internet via an ethernet cable.
If I can’t immediately find a Wi-Fi network after installing EndeavorOS, then I’m simply going to deal with Ubuntu’s outdated distros and continue using the flavor of Ubuntu I’m currently using.
Linux is not a hobby of mine. I use it to get work done. I’ve skimmed the EndeavorOS forum. I’m not interested in sharing cooking recipes (like someone indicated in one of their posts). The primary reason I want to use EndeavorOS is not because I want to brag to people “I use Arch Linux, er, um, sort of.” I couldn’t care less about that. I simply got tired of dealing with Ubuntu’s outdated distros.
However, any disto that fails to allow me to install from a USB and then choose my Wi-Fi network qualifies, in my mind, as a non-user-friendly distro. “Been there, done that” with Puppy Linux. The Puppy Linux forums were full of people who seemed to make Linux a hobby. I liked the speed and simplicity of Puppy Linux. But the notion of trying to figure out install applications that weren’t Puppy Linux distros repulsed me.
At least to me, installing software on EndeavourOS is very similar to installing it on Ubuntu. Instead of “sudo-apt get…” I use “sudo pacman -S” or “yay…” Although neither are what I’d call user-friendly, they are both actually very simple.
Finally, I have four machines I need to set up. Furthermore, in my experience, I inevitably end up needing to do a “fresh install” every couple of years or so on each machine. (Theoretically it might not be necessary, but in practice I have found it is necessary).
In closing. No. I’m not upset. Not at all. Why should I be? Actually, I appreciate the work you guys are doing. I presume, as is the case with most FOSS projects, you guys are not being paid for your time. Frankly, I think EndeavourOS has a lot of potential because Arch Linux (which, as you know, EndeavourOS is based on) seems generally better for most client machines than any of the 'buntus (such as, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xbuntu). But, as I type this on my machine which is running a flavor of Ubuntu, I am wondering if its time for me to terminate, or perhaps at least postpone, using EndeavourOS.