# No access to journals **URL:** \ **Category:** Newbie\ **Created:** [November 15, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705 "2020-11-15T16:50:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/1 "2020-11-15T16:50:59Z")
```auto Specifying boot ID or boot offset has no effect, no persistent journal was found. ``` Tried changing auto to persistent in journalctl.conf but it hasn’t helped. New install on btrfs ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/2 "2020-11-15T16:54:07Z")
Have rebooted yet? ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/3 "2020-11-15T16:55:17Z")
Repeatedly ---
**Author:** ![anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon72019930)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/4 "2020-11-15T17:36:38Z")
does the folder `/var/log/journal` exist? ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/5 "2020-11-15T17:41:30Z")
It does, I just deleted and recreated to make sure and to see if it helps. ---
**Author:** ![anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon72019930)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/6 "2020-11-15T17:47:26Z")
and was there any content inside / is there now after recreating (and rebooting)? thats inside my `/var/log/journal`: ```auto drwxr-sr-x+ 1 root systemd-journal 4036 8. Nov 10:33 2b55b673ff8c4e258c53b57ac7ac5d59 drwxr-sr-x+ 1 root systemd-journal-remote 0 30. Aug 17:48 remote ``` ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/7 "2020-11-15T18:32:43Z")
```auto ls -lah Alias tip: lh total 0 drwxr-sr-x+ 1 root systemd-journal 12 Sep 20 21:10 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 290 Nov 15 18:22 .. drwxr-sr-x 1 root systemd-journal-remote 0 Sep 20 21:10 remote ``` But still got the problem, tried a timeshift restore, has not helped. ```auto ● systemd-journald.service - Journal Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journald.service; static) Active: active (running) since Sun 2020-11-15 18:51:16 GMT; 8s ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-journald-dev-log.socket ● systemd-journald.socket ● systemd-journald-audit.socket Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Main PID: 34057 (systemd-journal) Status: "Processing requests..." Tasks: 1 (limit: 19096) Memory: 1.3M CGroup: /system.slice/systemd-journald.service └─34057 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald Nov 15 18:51:16 xircon-w6567sz systemd-journald[34057]: Journal started Nov 15 18:51:16 xircon-w6567sz systemd-journald[34057]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f777> Nov 15 18:51:16 xircon-w6567sz systemd-journald[34057]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f777> ``` Everything goes to /run - I am completely baffled. ```auto systemd-machine-id-setup --print > mcid dbus-uuidgen --get >> mcid \cat /etc/machine-id >> mcid \cat /var/lib/dbus/machine-id >> mcid df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f7777ce df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f7777ce df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f7777ce df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f7777ce ``` So no problem there. Remains the same after a reboot. ran: ```auto mkdir -p /var/log/journal systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal systemctl restart systemd-journald ``` As su - no joy. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/8 "2020-11-15T21:03:37Z")
Well have read the internet, tried everything I can find - same issue, I give up for the night. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/9 "2020-11-16T17:10:23Z")
Getting nowhere with this, round and round in circles. ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/10 "2020-11-16T17:12:06Z")
Wish i could help somehow, but that’s beyond voodoo magic, no idea and haven’t seen anything like it before too ☹ Maybe that should help somehow > **[Journal persistent logging fails after reboot - Red Hat Customer Portal](https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3162941)** > > This issue happens only if Persistent logging for the Journal is turned on in /etc/systemd/journald.conf or /var/log/journal exists on the root filesystem and /var or /var/log is on a dedicated filesystem # grep ^Storage /etc/systemd/journald.conf... ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/11 "2020-11-16T17:20:55Z")
Yes, saw that (at least twice). Not sure if it applies. Have cross posted on reddit (btrfs & linux questions) just in case 😃 And it is pay walled ☹ ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/12 "2020-11-16T17:36:07Z")
> [@xircon](#): > > And it is pay walled ☹ Jeez…Haven’t even noticed, what a crap 😆 ---
**Author:** ![anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon72019930)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/13 "2020-11-16T19:12:08Z")
could it be related to any kind of btrfs “issue”? Like have you created additional subvolumes and something is wrong? Could you post your` /etc/fstab`? and maybe additionally run `sudo btrfs subvolume list /` ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/14 "2020-11-16T19:16:27Z")
Sure thing: ```auto # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may # be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if # disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # UUID=4EAC-B056 /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 2 UUID=3ff8ff8b-71b4-402a-82c6-24ddd0b82628 / btrfs subvol=@,defaults,noatime,space_cache,autodefrag,compress=lzo 0 1 UUID=3ff8ff8b-71b4-402a-82c6-24ddd0b82628 /home btrfs subvol=@home,defaults,noatime,space_cache,autodefrag,compress=lzo 0 2 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 UUID=a1a5ca63-d695-45bb-8854-e3c7c978380e /data ext4 rw,relatime 0 2 ``` ```auto /dev/sdb1: UUID="a1a5ca63-d695-45bb-8854-e3c7c978380e" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="7c6c4bc4-01" /dev/sda1: UUID="4EAC-B056" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="b4e2446c-700d-ba4c-a7d5-2f25fbfaaf46" /dev/sda2: UUID="3ff8ff8b-71b4-402a-82c6-24ddd0b82628" UUID_SUB="4c29735f-febf-491a-b6fb-09afc2ad9988" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="btrfs" PARTUUID="7d3fb8d8-45e1-d043-9437-af6fb1a22739" /dev/sda3: UUID="a90993bf-4906-4ba6-bb71-f908278c9b70" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="92d0aadb-f626-fa4c-9783-71f88a1defb8" /dev/sdc1: LABEL="ventoy" UUID="AA39-7193" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="exfat" PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="5da6b0ea-01" /dev/sdc2: SEC_TYPE="msdos" LABEL_FATBOOT="VTOYEFI" LABEL="VTOYEFI" UUID="5DBF-2B5F" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="5da6b0ea-02" ``` ```auto ID 256 gen 5165 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2020-11-15_17-54-26/@ ID 257 gen 5636 top level 5 path @home ID 271 gen 5089 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2020-11-13_20-54-49/@ ID 297 gen 5165 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2020-11-14_22-00-01/@ ID 303 gen 5165 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2020-11-15_17-55-57/@ ID 304 gen 5636 top level 5 path @ ID 310 gen 5166 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2020-11-15_22-00-01/@ ``` Added blkid. Thanks for the help, I need to see some logs for another problem, slow close down, this is driving me nuts! ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/c/6cf33339fb20ac9214f1c25e469027e4e9a31b43.png) ---
**Author:** ![anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon72019930)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/15 "2020-11-16T19:41:06Z")
Ok, so only the standard subvols @ and @home. No problem i could spot. > [@xircon](#): > > ```auto > mkdir -p /var/log/journal > systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal > systemctl restart systemd-journald > > ``` ah thats what is also suggested on [https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html](https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html) How does your `/var/log/journal` look now (is there a subfolder reflecting the machine-id (a long alpha-numeric string)? What about the access rights? a simple `ls -la` again please 😀 Your first `ls -lah` only showd the “remote” subfolder (plus . & . . of course), but no “machine-id” subfolder… ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/16 "2020-11-16T19:43:27Z")
```auto ls -la /var/log/journal total 0 drwxr-sr-x+ 1 root systemd-journal 0 Nov 16 16:28 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 308 Nov 16 16:56 .. ``` Everything still points to /run : ```auto status systemd-journald ● systemd-journald.service - Journal Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journald.service; static) Active: active (running) since Mon 2020-11-16 17:31:01 GMT; 2h 12min ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-journald-dev-log.socket ● systemd-journald.socket ● systemd-journald-audit.socket Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Main PID: 35914 (systemd-journal) Status: "Processing requests..." Tasks: 1 (limit: 19101) Memory: 9.7M CGroup: /system.slice/systemd-journald.service └─35914 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald Nov 16 17:31:01 xircon-w6567sz systemd-journald[35914]: Journal started Nov 16 17:31:01 xircon-w6567sz systemd-journald[35914]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/df42ab4307ea45ce862845b75f777> Warning: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. ``` status, enable, start & restart are all aliases (lazy) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![freggel.doe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/freggel.doe/32/9228_2.png) [@freggel.doe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/freggel.doe)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/17 "2020-11-16T20:00:10Z")
> [@xircon](#): > > journalctl.conf Maybe just a typo but the relevant file would be `/etc/systemd/journald.conf` and any config file in the `/etc/systemd/journald.conf.d/` directory. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/18 "2020-11-16T20:06:51Z")
Typo, sorry 😃 ---
**Author:** ![anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@anon72019930](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon72019930)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/19 "2020-11-16T20:15:48Z")
> [@xircon](#): > > Typo, sorry haha that would have been too easy 😅 so, its very insistent… > [@xircon](#): > > ```auto > mkdir -p /var/log/journal > systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal > systemctl restart systemd-journald > > ``` but no errors were thrown!? ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705/20 "2020-11-16T20:15:50Z")
@freggel.doe you are a genius! ```auto cat volatile-storage.conf # # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-3.0-or-later [Journal] Storage=volatile ``` Where the hell did that come from! Commented out and now working. Thank you for pointing me in the correct direction. It was in /etc/journald.conf.d [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/no-access-to-journals/9705.md?page=2)