be careful there is series AMD 5000 and 5000 Pro with apu
this is not same thing
I don’t find any report of privacy issues from 2020 until now that PiHole or anything else detects if the Microsoft Pluton chip connects to any server by DNS request. I don’t believe a static IP address is built into the chip. The static IP address has some disadvantages
I know that I’'m just saying it’s a nice laptop if pluton can be turned off.
Edit: This laptop comes with popOS so not sure if it would be enabled.
Edit: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Pluton-TPM-CRB-Merged-Linux-6.3
The problem is you can’t really know if it’s turned off since it’s proprietary junk.
They can tell you it is, but you have to trust it’s true. There’s no way to verify though.
As the Phoronix link states.
After all, it’s just TPM functionality being exposed for Linux 6.3 and nothing more from this much criticized Microsoft security black box.
Edit: https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/20/microsoft_amd_pluton_lenovo/
Oh, right. It must be fine then. Obviously Phoronix was able to verify the code and be part of the “as built” production with everything involved in the chip to verify all of these claims.
Even though no one else, including themselves can actually verify them. I always forget about Phoronix. Silly me.
This still looks like one heck of a laptop, and for that money I cannot build with these specs. AMD Ryzen 7 5000 Series 5800H 
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I want one at some point. I just can’t justify it with all of the computer stuff I currently have already. It looks really nice though. And very good specs. The last great laptop.
Yall are being overtly paranoid there is no need. They already know everything about you and have you on the appropriate 
list. 
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There’s at least a sliver of truth in this 
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Oh, well in that case, we may as well give up all privacy. Cause obviously if you’re not doing anything wrong, there’s no need for it. We’re already marked and sorted anyways. Hahahahahaha
I always see it as some have things to hide, all have things to protect. I’m not giving up just yet 
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Keep your firearms clean and well used. You can never be too safe.
Actually I am doing wrong I am just at that age where I don’t if they know.
Hey I am in the market for a new laptop and the shortlisted one is ASUS Zenbook S 14 OLED UX5406SA. But the spec sheet says
Stay secure and fast: Face login with the IR camera and Windows passkeys. Microsoft Pluton security for sensitive data, securely stored on device.
So, is this a threat for our privacy or is it only on windows? I plan to install EOS with secure boot disabled.
Is it still paranoia if they’re demonstrably proven to be out to get you though
And well keybreak has shown us that there’s no escape.
three letter agencies have been covertly getting spyware chips embedded in hardware components (from cpus to motherboard) for a very long time though. Pluton is just a way to not bother with the covertness anymore.
That’s grounds for a lawsuit against microsoft, surely.
Even the ‘got nothing to hide’ people have things to hide, they just don’t know it yet. You see, the law changes sometimes, so maybe you said a bad word on the internet in a semi-private chat in 2011, anad that word is made grounds for imprisonment in 2031, and this semi-private chat of yours was perhaps on a platform like facebook, using private messenger, and it’ll let any government that wants to read those private chats of yours, which allows them to spot you saying the bad word, and now have grounds to put you in prison.
That is btw absolute best case scenario. Chances are everyone is already doing a bunch of things that are illegal but they just don’t know are illegal, and it can be turned against them whenever the government decides these people are inconvenient. I mean ridiculous crimes exist, I know a person that got arrested for riding a bicycle while drunk.
It goes beyond that too, it’s not just your government you gotta worry about, a big country with good relations to your own, or a big organization like the EU or UN might decide you’re inconveneint, dig up an excuse and demand of your government to hand you over for imprisonment.
The UK is already trying this shit, anyone who criticizes their fascist regime anywhere in the world they try to get imported to their jails.They’re not succeeding, because most of the other countries still have a government just barely sane enough to call them out for being completely nuts, but it’s only a matter of time tbh before things like that become an everyday occurrence.
We’ve slowly had our privacy chipped away for like 2 decades, there’s barely any left now, even offline our phones in our pockets are spying on us. The next step is weaponizing our lack of privacy to exploit and oppress us, and it’s already happening.
It’s from Microsoft I would never trust it.
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@rabcor In the UK we have bigger issues to worry about than privacy:
The Independent - How the British Government subjected thousands of people to chemical and biological warfare trials during Cold War
The Mail - How British government carried out secret biological warfare tests on London Tube passengers in 1960s during Cold War
Not quite sure I’ve really signed up for this 
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