It is looking like the new Mesa update is causing problems mostly with nVidia systems…refer to:
Dear all,
This morning, after the usual system upgrade, I experienced a system hang during boot — right before the desktop environment was supposed to start.
Using a live distro and chroot, I inspected the recent updates and noticed mesa among them:
[2025-05-22T09:36:45+0200] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (1:25.0.5-1 -> 1:25.1.1-1)
Here’s an excerpt from the boot log:
gnome-session-binary\[...] WARNING: Application 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' failed to register before timeout
gnome-session-binary\[…
So far there have been reports with nVidia systems (including hybrid systems) & Tigerlake Intel being affected. I would recommend upgrading with caution. So far, Gnome & KDE have been affected.
Asking everyone to post:
lspci | grep 'VGA'
or
inxi -G
Or both. Thank You!
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To cite: nvidia should give two f’s about mesa?
This all seems so far like a limited, circular posting of Arch and EOS forum links without anybody providing actual logs or hardware specs?
That is why I’ve asked people to post specs…we need more information. I was the cross-poster to get the information out there.
Mesa warning to All users is a strong statement though.
If you say in the crosspost that TigerLake and hybrid systems are affected too, it would be cool to have a link to those reports.
Yes…it’s a bit strong, but in view of what has been seen so far…I believe warranted…I’ll reword it a bit. I referred to hybrid & Tigerlake in the Arch forums posting… I’ll provide more info at the top post here.
I say what I say since years: Throw away the leatherjacket garbage, go red.
I thought this mesa issue was Gnome-specific?
Not as far as I’ve found…there is 1 KDE report…we need more info…
❯ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library (32 bits)
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
Essential Mesa utilities
❯
❯ lspci | grep 'VGA'
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Lite Hash Rate] (rev a1)
❯
❯ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Lite Hash Rate] driver: nvidia
v: 570.144
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: modesetting
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1920x1080~100Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,swrast
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: nvidia surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
❯
I haven’t had any issues.
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No issues so far:
❯ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library (32 bits)
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
Essential Mesa utilities
~
❯ lspci | grep 'VGA'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09)
~
❯ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: Chicony Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: gnome-shell v: 48.1 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2)
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xprop,xrandr
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swh
May 22, 2025, 5:03pm
12
No issues on AMD CPU/GPU on KDE Plasma
╭ ~
╰─❯ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-vulkan-mesa-layers 1:25.1.1-1
Mesa's Vulkan layers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6
Essential Mesa utilities
local/vulkan-mesa-layers 1:25.1.1-1
Mesa's Vulkan layers
╭ ~
╰─❯ lspci | grep 'VGA'
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] (rev c7)
╭ ~
╰─❯ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600
XT/6600M] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: modesetting,radeon dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution:
1: 1920x1080~144Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast,zink
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6600 (radeonsi navi23 LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
6.14.6-arch1-1)
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: radv surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: corectrl wl: wayland-info
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
╭ ~ 19:02 swh on EndeavourOS 525ms
╰─❯
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@ExDebianuser , I also posted on the Arch thread you posted.
3nd
May 22, 2025, 5:54pm
14
not sure what the hell this about lol , but anyway , here’s mine .
anything to help
[jp@jp14 ~]$ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/mesa 1:25.0.5-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
Essential Mesa utilities
[jp@jp14 ~]$ lspci | grep ‘VGA’
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[jp@jp14 ~]$ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: Z-Star Micro Webcam driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1: 1366x768~60Hz 2: 1366x768~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.5-arch1.1
renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG)
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
[jp@jp14 ~]$
EOS
May 22, 2025, 6:07pm
15
3nd:
local/mesa 1:25.0.5-1
Old version. Version that may cause problems is mesa 1:25.1.1-1
I knew we got off too easy with the last MESA update. I had braced for disaster and all went fine.
~ lspci | grep 'VGA' ✔ 11:13:10 AM
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] (rev a1)
17:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Raphael (rev c3)
~ inxi -G ✔ 11:13:14 AM
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] driver: nvidia
v: 570.144
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raphael driver: amdgpu
v: kernel
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia dri: radeonsi
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,radeonsi,swrast
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: nvidia surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
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Canoe
May 22, 2025, 6:42pm
17
ExDebianuser:
lspci | grep 'VGA'
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] (rev c5)
I’ve not yet upgraded, but will edit this post if there are issues. (Will be surprised if they are.)
Update : Zero problems on all-AMD system :
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700
XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: modesetting,radeon dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
resolution: 1920x1080~144Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast,zink
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (radeonsi navi22 LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
6.14.6-arch1-1)
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: radv surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor wl: wayland-info
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
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No issues on this end.
~ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6
Essential Mesa utilities
~ lspci | grep 'VGA'
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 33 [Radeon RX 7600/7600 XT/7600M XT/7600S/7700S / PRO W7600] (rev cf)
~ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 33 [Radeon RX 7600/7600
XT/7600M XT/7600S/7700S / PRO W7600] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: modesetting,radeon dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution:
1: 2560x1440~165Hz 2: 1920x1080~75Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast,zink
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7600 (radeonsi navi33 LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
6.14.6-arch1-1)
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: radv surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: amdgpu_top, lact, radeontop
wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
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No issues here with Hyprland and an Nvidia gpu, using uwsm to login.
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GB203 [GeForce RTX 5080] driver: nvidia v: 570.144
Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
type: USB
Display: wayland server: Xwayland v: 24.1.6 compositor: Hyprland v: 0.49.0
driver: gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 3840x2160~144Hz
2: 2560x1440~144Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,swrast
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080/PCIe/SSE2
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo gpu: nvidia-smi x11: xprop,xrandr
extra/glu 9.0.3-2 [installed]
extra/mesa 1:25.1.1-1 [installed]
extra/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6 [installed]
multilib/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2 [installed]
multilib/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1 [installed]
extra/libva-nvidia-driver 0.0.13-1 [installed]
extra/nvidia-open-dkms 570.153.02-1 [installed]
extra/nvidia-utils 570.153.02-1 [installed]
multilib/lib32-nvidia-utils 570.153.02-1 [installed]
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@ExDebianuser , here’s my results of lspci | grep 'VGA'
:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation AD107M [GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile] (rev a1)
65:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Phoenix1 (rev c1)
And inxi -G
:
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA AD107M [GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile] driver: nvidia
v: 570.144
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Phoenix1 driver: amdgpu
v: kernel
Device-3: Sonix USB2.0 FHD UVC WebCam driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 24.1.6 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: gnome-shell v: 48.1 driver: gpu: amdgpu
resolution: 2560x1600~165Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nouveau,nvidia,radeonsi,swrast
platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
renderer: AMD Radeon 780M (radeonsi phoenix LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
6.14.6-arch1-1)
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
I’m on Gnome and have had no issues.
Edit. Included pacman -Qi mesa
:
Name : mesa
Version : 1:25.1.1-1
Description : Open-source OpenGL drivers
Architecture : x86_64
URL : https://www.mesa3d.org/
Licenses : MIT AND BSD-3-Clause AND SGI-B-2.0
Groups : None
Provides : libva-mesa-driver=1:25.1.1-1 mesa-libgl=1:25.1.1-1 mesa-vdpau=1:25.1.1-1 libva-driver opengl-driver vdpau-driver
Depends On : expat gcc-libs glibc libdrm libelf libglvnd libx11 libxcb libxext libxshmfence libxxf86vm llvm-libs lm_sensors spirv-tools
wayland zlib zstd
Optional Deps : opengl-man-pages: for the OpenGL API man pages
Required By : egl-gbm egl-x11 gst-plugins-bad-libs gst-plugins-base-libs lib32-mesa libglvnd mutter qt5-base qt6-base rog-control-center
webkit2gtk-4.1 webkitgtk-6.0 xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xorg-xwayland
Optional For : libva libvdpau
Conflicts With : libva-mesa-driver<1:24.2.7-1 mesa-libgl<17.0.1-2 mesa-vdpau<1:24.2.7-1
Replaces : libva-mesa-driver<1:24.2.7-1 mesa-libgl<17.0.1-2 mesa-vdpau<1:24.2.7-1
Installed Size : 40.74 MiB
Packager : Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig@archlinux.org>
Build Date : Wed 21 May 2025 12:40:03 PM EEST
Install Date : Thu 22 May 2025 10:00:50 PM EEST
Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script : No
Validated By : Signature
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