I’ve had this happen in the past on a thread I was following as I found the discussion interesting.
I have to say, on that past instance, that contacting the moderators about allowing the discussion but cautioning us to focus on the topic turned out fruitful.
That said, the fact that this happens more is not great…
If someone is causing trouble, block them from causing trouble.
Discussions with both agreeable AND opposing opinions can be very interesting, and punishing those that keep it civil makes zero sense. Except for the case the EOS Team feels that the scope of the forums should be limited to strictly the distribution’s own issues/topics, which would be a clear and respectable stance.
It is the same result, but it includes the community and helps with the “mods don’t have time to read all of that” issue. I don’t understand how it is not better for the community.
You know what. I’ve given a possible solution. A few, actually. Do your thing.
Third time, i need to clearify why closing the thread?
NOT to punish civil acting users, no, why should I do so ?
Instead, as a wake-up call for all civil users of the community to act civil and help keeping this forum friendly, It’s not about some masterminds in the background or All mighty Mods have to do that everyone here can help.
Isn’t that the current system? You engage in a respectful conversation and if somebody doesn’t behave with clear intent to stir the pot you contact the mods.
While I of course would do what ever I could to help the team out I enjoy being a regular member.
I to have my issue’s and some days things don’t sit right with me at all. I do my best to Police myself however I have fallen short many times. So I can get peoples frustration with things. Especially with personal attacks. Its hard to ignore those some days.
It really comes down to Respecting others choices and allowing yourself to be mature enough to accept their choice.
Considering one of the mods is antagonistic and often times a troll, the bar isn’t as high as you make it sound.
Anyway, I think you and the others I mentioned would be great additions.
Heck, now that I think of it: Doesn’t Arch Linux elect their mods and so on?
PS: Not suggesting we should follow Arch. Just something I think I remembered.
I wasn’t trying to make the bar sound high (unlike me ) i was just pointing out my thought on the matter. Again like I said I will serve however they need me. I enjoy the OS and THIS COMMUNITY.
It’s very clear to me that you just don’t get it. Here we go again where you are disparaging a moderator as you have done many times and it’s uncalled for.
Wasn’t gonna respond, but I’ll make it clear now and never respond to you again.
I’m calling YOU out. There is a big difference between calling someone out and insulting them. You’re just not good at quelling arguments, in my experience. This is a key part of a mod’s job for online forums. It doesn’t matter to me if someone else disagrees with this, because this is my experience with you.
It’s not about agreeing. You raised the point of having too many comments to read, and I offered a feasible and community-oriented solution that removes that from the equation.
You said the community should do their part.
My suggested solution is community-driven.
Self policing and “big threads are hard to follow”, create a context layer that should encourage those that do contact the mods, to do so by handing-over the minimum applicable context (of the problematic conversation) to the mod team while doing so, which should then be acted on.
Given context, it’s then more obvious of the actions that need to take place.
And if the context is missing, then closing the thread is “acting on missing context”, which doesn’t seem that reasonable, not unless clearly communicated as a temporary measure while context is being worked out, or a very clear guidance is provided, such as
“This thread is very hard to follow to collect context in order to fairly moderate. Please continue conversation here <linked new “clean” thread> and please keep it civil.”
And i do so the same ? Asking the user that opens a thread to take care of it? As we are all part of the same Community? Why it must be a mod to take care of all the posts alone? Why not taking responsibility for what you post in public?
You are asking for the same you were criticizing before, that moderation is authoritative.
You say that you want the moderator to be responsible for the consequences of your post? This is a bit exaggerated indeed… i only want to point my view of the suggestion.
I think closing the threads is fine, it’s less moderator work, and usually when people are getting heated the topic has already been at least in part derailed anyways.
Sounds like a great job, how much does it pay per month? Oh, I have to do it on the side while working, sitting with my family, …
No. We don’t need a one hour investigation and multiple judges to figure things out. You obviously misbehave, you’re out. You want that kind of forum, set one up yourself, and you’re free to run it however you want.
In context of recent comments: You put a lying or clown face reaction on someone’s posting? I don’t care about the context anymore. Can be glad that I’m not a mod.
PS: Why are these shitty emojis like lying-face still available?
PPS: Yes, I moderated public forums before, I got burned out about it and I have no tolerance for this time wasting endeavor.
) i was just pointing out my thought on the matter. Again like I said I will serve however they need me. I enjoy the OS and THIS COMMUNITY.