Intel BattleMage news! NEW update! Thoughts after time with the B580--

Why did you get the A750 vs the A770?

Edit: Price? Or didn’t need better than provided specs.

Well…I got it for $150 + Shipping & Still the A770’s are trending around $300…The A750 plays all the games on Steam that I own (no A+ games)…so it was a no brainer… I do plan to spend around what I had spent on the RTX3070 for a BattleMage…I’m guessing it will be out around the $550 range.

I have the cash set back for it now. My upgrade to an Asus ROG Z790 went very well…a bit of trouble getting the DDR5-6400 stable, but it’s like a rock now.

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OK—a VERY mixed bag here…I now have the Xe driver available…it works (sort of…)

Now I wait for the Mesa 24.1 release to see how well it works…:slight_smile: But, the availability of 2 Intel video drivers TOTALLY borked BOINC…it seems that BOINC wants to see only 1 video driver to enable GPU work units…this is not acceptable…

So, for now, I’m booting with 6.8.1 to do testing & booting the LTS to do BOINC workunits…I do know as the Xe driver matures, it will provide faster work than the i915 driver…I’ve bug-reported this to boinc-development…no response yet.

So, again—we wait…

Ok…so doing “i915.force_probe=!56a1 xe.force_probe=56a1” on the kernel line or doing a blacklist of the i915 driver works very well… “blacklist i915” & the next line “options i915 modeset=0” works. ( I need to note about this: 56a1 is the identifier for the Arc A750 GPU…if you want to try with another card like the Arc A770 or A380, the number will be different–A770 is 56a2 & I don’t know for the A380 or the integrated iGPUs - of course, the blacklist method will work for all GPUs)

I get an unaccelerated video driver (no mesa support) with some artifacts from the cursor…Not bad for an experimental driver.

Now for Mesa 24.1…I’m waiting to sort out the BOINC mess with the developers…Trying to do the same blacklist with the Xe driver is not working…so I wait.

Another 5 min spin with 6.8 and 24.1-git: Booted into plasma, everything looked as expected - maybe not as snappy. But apparently there’s no va-api support at the moment? That was the showstopper for me.

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I’ve not wanted (resist doing) git-mesa…trying to stay “stock”…but I’m really tempted…

Anyway, here is the Mesa update information: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Xe-KMD-Mesa-24.1-Default

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Judging by the release cadence, we “should” see the 24.1 release by late April ~ early May… :crossed_fingers:

BOINC just upped my bug to a major bug – here’s to hoping it gets a fast resolve.

(far too much to hope for that both happen at the same time…)

In my experience the mesa-git AUR package is pretty serviceable. Had to do it long enough when the whole Arc stuff lived in kernel/mesa/ffmpeg unstable 1,5 years ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

But it’s probably better to wait for the proper release, doesn’t look like you miss out on much at the moment.

Regarding your BOINC issue: I’m using the Arc card for some stable diffusion (this automatic fork to be specific), and the card is also no longer recognized with 6.8 (currently booting into 6.6 LTS if I want to use it). Maybe some broader issue somewhere. :person_shrugging:

Yes—I’ve got a couple of projects that will use the A750…Link to my bug report: https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/5537

It looks like the problem has been assigned to the 8.1 milestone…I have asked for assistance with a work around…We’ll see how long that takes. As soon as I get a response I will post it.

Interesting project…I’m very sure that the problem is the same as BOINC…confusion with 2 video drivers being available at the same time…

Some info for you, not sure if you ran across this yet.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=294086

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Thanks for the heads up. I was trying ENABLE_NEW_KMD and that wasn’t working. I’m a little bit confused by the code but it seems ENABLE_XE_KMD may be the ticket. :+1:

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Interesting reading…I’m still resisting using Mesa-git…I’m currently on the git versions of OpenRGB & BOINC (8.10-pre) + running Gnome 46…so I’m feeling a bit stretched right now. I really want BOINC to get resolved with the Intel driver(s) issue so I can run the Xe long-term. If Mesa waits more than a month—well–then I’ll be running the -git version (let’s see…that means the second week of April…) :slight_smile:

What I was told is that “real” support for Xe won’t land until 24.1

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OK, I jumped back on the git train with the changes from the arch-forum.

Plasma 6 and vaapi decoding working fine, running it for a few hours now and can’t tell a difference.

But no video encoding, intel-gpu-top is broken, and quickly testing a game resulted in a dxvk error.

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Ya…that about what I thought…I’m going to resist a bit longer…

I just got an intel-compute-runtime update and on a hunch I tried my previously 6.8 i915 broken stable-diffusion stuff, and the card is recognized again! :clap:

Maybe give it shot with BOINC too.

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Interesting!!! I’ll give it a try.

YES!!! Now they need to enable the Xe driver in BOINC to really make my day!

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More information on the Xe driver: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Linux-Display-Battlemage
Battlemage is on the way!!!

And 6.10 news: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.10-Intel-Xe-DRM-Patches

I’m watching the Mesa timing & I “expect” Mesa 24.1 to drop any day now… So, testing of the Xe driver is almost ready…I’m pretty sure I’ll have a look at a “stock” running Xe within the next week or so.

As of today the Xe driver WORKS. Mesa 24.1 is in testing right now. All you need to do is insert this into your kernel line (checking the card number–mine is 56a1) : i915.force_probe=!56a1 xe.force_probe=56a1

My brief testing so far provides a “stable” driver…Steam is not recognizing it & the same goes for BOINC…so I’m going to bounce back & forth with it for the next couple of months…I’ve filed bug reports with Steam & BOINC about this…but…it looks very good so far.

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Another test session in Xe driver. Steam is not working --no video driver detected. BOINC --no video driver detected. Runs without any lag that I could see. GLXGears gave a very eye-opening frame rate…averaged at: 1400FPS !!! Now if it would be detected… For everyday use without gaming or Intel compute use…I don’t see ANY current problems—it’s a moving target, but it is looking VERY good so far.

Note: to check for your card#: lspci -nn | grep VGA

I have bug-reported both Steam & BOINC, so I will be tracking information…I think it’s better to do this now, rather than AFTER BattleMage is released…

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