I have recently built a computer with the following components:
ryzen 2700
Prior to that, I had the following laptop:
ASUS VivoBook 14 S403
My problem is that the user experience was much better and smoother on the laptop. I feel that my laptop was faster and I experience some input lag. I have previously heard that older ryzens have the problem input lag on Windows.
Does anyone else experience this with Ryzen?
can you please boot on USB live endaevour Os
inxi -Fza
@futhark0919
Sorry, I have been trying the other DEs of EOS and finally tried Manjaro KDE today so I dont have the output from EOS KDE. Nonetheless, no improvement.
System:X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
For example when I click an app on KDE, the starting logo jumps up and down with FPS drops. Also when I start an app, it feels like the system is freezing as if the CPU is throttling but the cpu is never beyond %15. Other than that, overall laggy. My expectations is not to have a blazing fast system but to have something better than the laptop experience.
I don’t have an answer for the root cause - but I agree that performance SHOULD be much better than it seems to be. I’ve got 2 Ryzen systems on the go, and laggy is the LAST thing I would them!
Being slow to initialize is expected to some degree, but once it starts a boot right up to shutdown it should snap along just fine.
Did you try specific BIOS settings, by any chance? IS the RAM speed setting appropriate? Are secure boot and fast boot disabled? I run that Asus board, so I could check any settings for comparo with mine if you want.
I double checked that the CPU and RAM is overclocked in BIOS, and fast boot and secure boot is disabled. What is your Ryzens? Maybe newer versions are just better overall?
The one on your mobo is a Ryzen 5 2400G (integrated graphics) - and here’s some info from the BIOS:
Mem is 16GB or Corsair DDR4 (3000Mhz) running at 2133
Mobo main voltage is at 1.417V (runs at 28C)
Most other voltage settings are at auto
I’ll add in an inxi -Faz in a minute - from that machine.
inxi -Faz
System:
Kernel: 5.16.10-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0
parameters: root=PARTUUID=30abdc04-e525-4912-aa8e-147b82b2d64d rw quiet
resume=UUID=fb9662c9-c2ff-49f6-b498-323f73aec5dc add_efi_memmap
initrd=\boot\amd-ucode.img initrd=\boot\initramfs-linux.img
Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.29 info: xfce4-panel, plank
wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B450-PLUS v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2008
date: 12/06/2019
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64
type: MT MCP arch: Zen family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x11 (17) stepping: 0
microcode: 0x8101016
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 384 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x64 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 4x512 KiB
L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3259 high: 3780 min/max: 1600/3900 boost: disabled
scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 3175 2: 3119
3: 3314 4: 3264 5: 3184 6: 3119 7: 3780 8: 3119 bogomips: 62425
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series]
vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME driver: amdgpu v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DVI-D-1 bus-ID: 09:00.0
chip-ID: 1002:15dd class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: xfwm v: 4.16.1 driver:
X: loaded: amdgpu gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2160 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x571mm (40.0x22.5")
s-diag: 1165mm (45.9")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-0 mapped: HDMI-A-1 model: BenQ EL2870U serial: <filter>
built: 2018 res: 3840x2160 hz: 60 dpi: 157 gamma: 1.2
size: 621x341mm (24.4x13.4") diag: 708mm (27.9") ratio: 16:9 modes:
max: 3840x2160 min: 720x400
Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio
vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 09:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:15de class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
bus-ID: 09:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.16.10-arch1-1 running: yes
Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.20 running: no
Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: no
Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.47 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
class-ID: 0200
IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: wgpia0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 6.6 TiB used: 1.62 TiB (24.5%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 1B2QEXM7 temp: 29.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital
model: WDS100T2B0A-00SM50 size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 00WD
scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital
model: WD40EFRX-68N32N0 size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
rev: 0A82 scheme: GPT
ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Seagate
model: Expansion Desk size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
logical: 4096 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0712 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 32.23 GiB size: 31.47 GiB (97.65%)
used: 20.39 GiB (64.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
used: 354 MiB (69.3%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-3: /home raw-size: 234.38 GiB size: 229.7 GiB (98.00%)
used: 26.07 GiB (11.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.92 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p7 maj-min: 259:7
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: N/A mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 49.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 302 Uptime: 31d 15h 4m wakeups: 0 Memory: 13.65 GiB
used: 2.34 GiB (17.2%) Init: systemd v: 250 tool: systemctl Compilers:
gcc: 11.2.0 clang: 13.0.1 Packages: pacman: 1246 lib: 285 Shell: Bash
v: 5.1.16 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.13
You might spot a driver difference from all that too. Good luck!
I think you are going to have to experiment with some kernel parameters. There are many but here is a few you can try. You could also check your some logs.
processor.max_cstate=5
idle=nomwait
rcu_nocbs=0-11
Or
processor.max_cstate=1
Edit:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
Your Bios version is way out of date and needs to be updated. It is 9 versions older.
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for amd ryzen series
“amd_iommu=on iommu=pt”
“processor.max_cstate=5 rcu_nocbs=0_15”
more general
systemd.unified_cgroup_hierarchy=true"
scsi_mod.use_blk_mq=1"
if possible avoid using snap
I updated BIOS after your message and I saw that the new version Apollo was released a few days ago so I did a completely clean install.
CPU overclocked by motherboard
Everything is running very smooth now. I also had some tearing that I didnt care about on the screen when I started apps, it is gone now.
System:X.Org v: 21.1.3 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
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