# I finally divorced my self from Pamac **URL:** \ **Category:** Hello\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500 "2022-02-24T14:28:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![djwyman](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/djwyman/32/46001_2.png) [@djwyman](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/djwyman)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/1 "2022-02-24T14:28:16Z")
So years ago I had used manjaro and got kinda spoiled to pamac and used it for a long time when using arch based distros because I could easily search for a package and not have to know what the proper package name was or whether it was in the AUR or a normal repo and so on. I haven’t used manjaro in years but would still always put pamac on any arch install or arch based distro I installed, but Then I got to where I didn’t like some things it did like say I wanted to install some new app, and it decided to update everything and one of those updates had a problem so then the new app I wanted to install doesn’t get installed or just other goofy things. So then I started using it just to search for the proper name and what repo it was in so that I could just type that in for pacman or yay instead because I don’t usually have issues with them… Fast-forward to this morning, I was updating my laptop with the endeavour update from the welcome app, and I was getting some kind of error with the pamac key or something, so I said screw pamac and uninstalled it. If feels kinda liberating. Now I will just have to train my self to search for packages the CLI way instead. ---
**Author:** ![pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/pebcak/32/100472_2.png) [@pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/pebcak)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/2 "2022-02-24T14:36:37Z")
I never married Pamac but we have had an on-off relationship. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Stagger\_Lee](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/stagger_lee/32/93385_2.png) [@Stagger\_Lee](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Stagger_Lee)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/3 "2022-02-24T14:39:12Z")
I never even _dated_ Pamac. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/tomdoe/32/41570_2.png) [@TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/TomDoe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/4 "2022-02-24T15:01:00Z")
> [@djwyman](#): > > Now I will just have to train my self to search for packages the CLI way instead. I just use [https://archlinux.org/packages/](https://archlinux.org/packages/) and [https://aur.archlinux.org/](https://aur.archlinux.org/) to search for package names. ---
**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/5 "2022-02-24T15:08:26Z")
I still go out with pamac. She’s an aur-git! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/kresimir/32/73739_2.png) [@Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Kresimir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/6 "2022-02-24T15:13:04Z")
I never really used Pamac – even on Manjaro I uninstalled it. ---
**Author:** ![TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/tomdoe/32/41570_2.png) [@TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/TomDoe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/7 "2022-02-24T15:15:55Z")
> [@ricklinux](#): > > I still go out with pamac. She’s an aur-git! Yeah, maybe 4 am in the club when all the sexy aur-gits have already left… ---
**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/9 "2022-02-24T15:19:29Z")
Nothing wrong with pamac as far as I’m concerned. I use it along with other tools occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![BS86](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bs86/32/18119_2.png) [@BS86](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/BS86)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/10 "2022-02-24T15:38:21Z")
> [@TomDoe](#): > > I just use > [https://archlinux.org/packages/](https://archlinux.org/packages/) > and > [https://aur.archlinux.org/](https://aur.archlinux.org/) > to search for package names. why? `pacman -Ss` and `yay -Ss` is way faster 😉 maybe pipe it to `grep` if you really want to filter more. ---
**Author:** ![TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/tomdoe/32/41570_2.png) [@TomDoe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/TomDoe)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/11 "2022-02-24T15:49:06Z")
I don’t install much and if I find an interesting application I’m in the browser anyway. And if the keyword isn’t found in the repos, it’s only one mouseclick to search the AUR. ---
**Author:** ![Zircon34](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/zircon34/32/135623_2.png) [@Zircon34](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Zircon34)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/12 "2022-02-24T18:15:57Z")
There are also a couple of android apps that can be used to quickly search packages, if you want a gui and touchscreen via your phone… Both for arch repo and AUR! ---
**Author:** ![jonathon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/jonathon/32/18722_2.png) [@jonathon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/jonathon)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/13 "2022-02-24T20:23:09Z")
> [@BS86](#): > > pipe Whoa, whoa… that’s nearly _magic_ you’re talking about there! ---
**Author:** ![djwyman](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/djwyman/32/46001_2.png) [@djwyman](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/djwyman)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/14 "2022-02-24T20:36:29Z")
I may have to give those a try. ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/15 "2022-02-24T20:40:33Z")
This may be the best thread posted here in a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![Scotty\_Trees](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/scotty_trees/32/29792_2.png) [@Scotty\_Trees](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Scotty_Trees)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/16 "2022-02-25T01:18:58Z")
![Screenshot from 2022-02-24 20-16-27](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/6/766db0d5ef27885c80ca93aed3dcc351923fb8c1.png) I still use Pamac from time to time to have the ability to scroll through my entire transaction history (installed/uninstalled/upgraded packages list). I find it very handy for those few moments where I need to know what I did for certain packages either days or sometimes months ago; it’s been very useful, but also very niche of a feature. Does pacman have a transaction history list command that functions just like this do you know? Cuz then it’d be one less reason I’d use Pamac. ---
**Author:** ![eosbtw](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eosbtw/32/39253_2.png) [@eosbtw](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eosbtw)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/17 "2022-02-25T01:33:54Z")
`grep upgraded /var/log/pacman.log`? And `sudo` isn’t needed. ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/18 "2022-02-25T01:36:47Z")
If you want to see the ENTIRE pacman log - ```auto cat /var/log/pacman.log ``` also no sudo. And even better, no pamac. ---
**Author:** ![Scotty\_Trees](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/scotty_trees/32/29792_2.png) [@Scotty\_Trees](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Scotty_Trees)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/19 "2022-02-25T02:08:55Z")
So what I like about Pamac’s transaction history is it can easily display all the upgraded/installed/removed packages starting from the most recent package. Once I open Pamac, it’s just two quick clicks to check this information out and it’s searchable which is a nice plus. This is simple, quick and easy, and convenient for a task I probably do somewhat infrequently. The command `grep upgraded /var/log/pacman.log` works great for just that, but it’s also missing what Pamac already displays in its transaction history list. Now if I change `upgraded` to `installed` or `removed` then I can see exactly everything else that Pamac displays. So do I want to use Pamac in two clicks to find this information or run three different commands to achieve the same result? `grep upgraded /var/log/pacman.log` `grep installed /var/log/pacman.log` `grep removed /var/log/pacman.log` Now there’s probably a simple answer out there, but I’m still learning as I go. Can I combine the commands to run all three at once, something like `grep upgraded; installed; removed /var/log/pacman.log` would that show all three logs at once or something like that to achieve the same result? I know this command doesn’t work, but something like run this command and once it completes, run this command and then display or something to that effect? If I can get a command like that, I think it’d be a step in the right direction. The only thing I’d need after knowing a command like that would be setting an alias for it like `pacman transdb` or `yay translog` or something like that, but I’m a bit out of my element in these regards of course. ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/20 "2022-02-25T02:18:24Z")
I promised that if I ever installed pamac on a piece of hardware that I own - I’d set it on fire and throw it off my balcony. For the rare instances I look for any of the information you were just asking about - maybe a few times a year total - it would save me a fortune in hardware to just run the 1-3 commands every 1-3 months when I need this information than to carry around pamac everyday. Plus my poor neighbors won’t have to worry about flaming computers falling from the skies. ---
**Author:** ![tbg](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/tbg/32/9399_2.png) [@tbg](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/tbg)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500/21 "2022-02-25T02:22:24Z")
> [@Scotty\_Trees](#): > > Can I combine the commands to run all three at once, > [@anon63071375](#): > > If you want to see the ENTIRE pacman log - > > ```auto > cat /var/log/pacman.log > > ``` I guess you missed this^^^ [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/i-finally-divorced-my-self-from-pamac/24500.md?page=2)