# ⚠ Heads-up: mutter43 is being replaced by magpie-wm

**URL:** <https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135>\
**Category:** Budgie\
**Created:** [August 5, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135 "2023-08-05T14:24:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/pebcak/32/100472_2.png) [@pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/pebcak)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/1 "2023-08-05T14:24:31Z")

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> When upgrading from budgie-desktop 10.7.2-5 to 10.7.2-6, the package mutter43  
> must be replaced with magpie-wm, which currently depends on mutter. As  
> mutter43 conflicts with mutter, manual intervention is required to complete  
> the upgrade.

> First remove mutter43, then immediately perform the upgrade. Do not relog or  
> reboot between these steps.
> 
> ```auto
> pacman -Rdd mutter43
> pacman -Syu
> 
> ```

> ⛲  
> [https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/message/RCJSMBGHB52L6ZXX25W24KLJ6UYVQNXB/](https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/message/RCJSMBGHB52L6ZXX25W24KLJ6UYVQNXB/)

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**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/2 "2023-08-05T14:31:12Z")

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/3 "2023-08-11T07:30:57Z")

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Just rechecked to see if installer is still fine and indeed no issue if someone does a new Install with Budgie:

 ![2023-08-11_09-29](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/5/65c2ec345f32711b0ab9f87e4002e71daf490c32.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DromundKaas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dromundkaas/32/24712_2.png) [@DromundKaas](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/DromundKaas)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/4 "2023-08-11T14:21:24Z")

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If I might add a question: This thread has been referenced as a possible cause for an [issue of mine](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-troubles-with-mouse-gestures/44377/8) with budgie that popped up very recently.

I just checked my installation history with the mentioned components:

```auto
[dromundkaas@Pure Videos]$ grep -i "budgie\|magpie\|mutter" /var/log/pacman.log
[2023-06-09T16:03:32+0200] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --noconfirm --noprogressbar --needed --disable-download-timeout libwnck3 mesa-utils xf86-input-libinput xorg-xdpyinfo xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-xinput xorg-xkill xorg-xrandr xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati b43-fwcutter broadcom-wl-dkms dhclient dnsmasq dnsutils ethtool iwd modemmanager networkmanager networkmanager-openconnect networkmanager-openvpn nss-mdns openssh usb_modeswitch wpa_supplicant xl2tpd firewalld python-pyqt5 python-capng downgrade pacman-contrib pkgfile rebuild-detector reflector yay accountsservice bash-completion bluez bluez-utils ffmpegthumbnailer gst-libav gst-plugin-pipewire gst-plugins-bad gst-plugins-ugly libdvdcss libgsf libopenraw mlocate poppler-glib xdg-user-dirs xdg-utils efitools haveged nfs-utils nilfs-utils ntp smartmontools unrar unzip xz adobe-source-han-sans-cn-fonts adobe-source-han-sans-jp-fonts adobe-source-han-sans-kr-fonts cantarell-fonts freetype2 noto-fonts ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu ttf-liberation ttf-opensans alsa-firmware alsa-plugins alsa-utils pavucontrol pipewire-pulse wireplumber pipewire-alsa pipewire-jack rtkit dmidecode dmraid hdparm hwdetect lsscsi mtools sg3_utils sof-firmware power-profiles-daemon upower endeavouros-theming eos-apps-info eos-log-tool eos-packagelist eos-quickstart eos-rankmirrors eos-update-notifier reflector-simple welcome duf findutils fsarchiver git glances hwinfo inxi meld nano-syntax-highlighting neofetch pv python-defusedxml python-packaging rsync tldr sed vi wget budgie-control-center budgie-desktop budgie-desktop-view budgie-extras budgie-screensaver eog evince file-roller gedit gnome-keyring gnome-screenshot gnome-terminal gvfs gvfs-afc gvfs-gphoto2 gvfs-mtp gvfs-nfs gvfs-smb lightdm lightdm-slick-greeter nemo nemo-fileroller nemo-preview network-manager-applet sushi totem xdg-user-dirs-gtk arc-gtk-theme-eos eos-settings-budgie eos-lightdm-slick-theme eos-qogir-icons'
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed budgie-control-center (1.2.0-1)
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed budgie-screensaver (5.1.0-2)
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed mutter43 (43.5-1)
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed budgie-desktop (10.7.2-5)
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed budgie-desktop-view (1.2.1-2)
[2023-06-09T16:05:40+0200] [ALPM] installed budgie-extras (1.5.0-1)
[2023-06-09T16:05:41+0200] [ALPM] installed eos-settings-budgie (1.5-1)
[2023-08-02T09:31:27+0200] [ALPM] upgraded budgie-control-center (1.2.0-1 -> 1.3.0-1)
[2023-08-05T07:18:07+0200] [ALPM] removed mutter43 (43.5-1)
[2023-08-05T07:18:09+0200] [ALPM] installed mutter (44.3-1)
[2023-08-05T07:18:09+0200] [ALPM] installed magpie-wm (0.9.2-1)
[2023-08-05T07:18:09+0200] [ALPM] upgraded budgie-desktop (10.7.2-5 -> 10.7.2-6)
[2023-08-09T07:04:29+0200] [ALPM] upgraded budgie-extras (1.5.0-1 -> 1.6.0-1)

```

So `mutter43` was installed, then later removed and replaced by `mutter`, while `magpie-wm` was installed as well. Now, that happened on the same day you documented the issue here, and as I usually update in the mornings (when the popup informs me of the number of updates), I didn’t have a chance to catch the problem.

Now, I have the linked strange issue. Could this be caused by a now broken or otherwise unintended installation configuration?

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/5 "2023-08-11T15:12:31Z")

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[https://archlinux.org/news/budgie-desktop-1072-6-update-requires-manual-intervention/](https://archlinux.org/news/budgie-desktop-1072-6-update-requires-manual-intervention/)

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/6 "2023-08-11T15:16:37Z")

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> [@DromundKaas](#):
>
> Now, I have the linked strange issue. Could this be caused by a now broken or otherwise unintended installation configuration?

It could be related but your question is at the post you linked too… i do not really understand why you put the question here? Also the output is a direct respons to what @pebcak asked for there …

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**Author:** ![eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eso/32/36767_2.png) [@eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eso)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 9:15am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/heads-up-mutter43-is-being-replaced-by-magpie-wm/44135/7 "2023-08-14T09:15:06Z")

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I’m a fan of Budgie, but still I feel a bit frustrated adding keyboard layout to budgie-panel and  
restarting ibus with a delay in a fresh installation and it crashes (spoils dconf for good).  
I cannot offer Budgie to a family member with such a vulnerability.  
(Why changing keyboard layouts? I recall a piece of advice of a Digital guy from the past:  
Localization? Why don’t they agree in Europe on a common language? 😂)  
This is not a question. Avoid this feature: “Oops something went wrong”  
Restore your dconf/user file if you want to log in.
