Grub Updated Seamlessly

[limotux]

@Kresimir

A Grub update introduced a new feature that, when you’ve regenerated the config with an old version of grub (the one you’ve previously installed with grub-install), caused the bootloader to not work properly. At the same time, there was an update to the kernel, so, the hook in EndeavourOS just regenerated the Grub config, but the new version of Grub wasn’t installed with grub-install.

I am not sure I am understanding correct.
You mean now just an update with yay -Syu is just enough without the 2 commands!
But I got from @dalto

@dalto

It can happen when grub is updated.

Any way, it is OK with me! (This is so techie for me to understand) I have to admit!
Sorry guys for taking much of your time.

[dalto]

@TomDoe

Could this differ from the grub version?

It should be the same as the grub version but could be different from the version of grub you have installed to the EFI partition.

The verbiage is complicated because “install” can mean two different things when applied to grub.

[limotux]

@manuel

I think it wouldn’t hurt if you run grub-install (with proper parameters!) and grub-mkconfig after updating grub.

This is the point why I made the script and .desktopfile to update this way to be on the safe side.

[dalto]

@limotux

I understand “recommending” in such case is a nice word in place of “you must do this else your system won’t boot”, because if it is not done the system won’t boot, in best case “probably won’t boot”

I think a better translation would be: “If you don’t run grub-install when grub is updated, you run the risk of a problem next time grub-mkconfig is run”.

[limotux]

@dalto

you run the risk of a problem next time grub-mkconfig is run

So, it is not really a “recommendation” as an optional thing to do or not to do. It is like we “recommend” not to cross the street when pedestrain light is red! You might survive if you did, you might not.

Thanks guys, I got and understood a bit more of the Grub story.

[dalto]

@limotux

So, it is not really a “recommendation” as an optional thing to do or not to do.

In general, a “recommendation” is some thing that you should do, not something you must do.

A recommendation is not the same as a requirement.

[limotux]

@Kresimir

You also didn’t have to do a fresh install because of the August issue.

Yes, but maybe I … I don’t remember why I did it.

[limotux]

@dalto

In general, a “recommendation” is some thing that you should do, not something you must do.

Well, I was grown up in a more strict way, if it is said x is better than y though y is good as well and not bad in any way then I must always do the better!

But you know what… it was worth it and it paid. I personally benefited from this principle and from applying it!

[Piglet]

I checked the log (/var/log/endeavour-install.log) file to see exactly what to enter.

[PYTHON JOB]: "Bootloader: grub (bios)" 
    .. Running ("grub-install", "--target=i386-pc", "--recheck", "--force", "/dev/sda") 
    .. Running ("grub-mkconfig", "-o", "/boot/grub/grub.cfg") 

[Kresimir]

@Piglet

"--force"

I wouldn’t use that one:

--force                install even if problems are detected

[aida]

I just exec yay too. reboot and everything ok. same as

@TomDoe

Update, reboot

[fbodymechanic]

I’m wearing black socks today.

[knome]

I’m hoping the tile adhesive fixes the magnets for the removable tile on my boxed-in pipework.

[ricklinux]

When they say run

 $ grub-install ...

Do they mean it literally grub-install or do they mean something else? I wish they would tell it exactly like it is! The proper command in full!

[dalto]

@ricklinux

The proper command in full!

The proper command varies per system. There is no perfect answer.

If you have a fairly typical system I would use:

sudo grub-install --no-nvram

[manuel]

They can’t tell the full command as it varies by the system and configuration.

[ricklinux]

This is the problem. I i run grub-install it just gives errors…

[dalto]

@ricklinux

This is the problem. I i run grub-install it just gives errors…

Try the command I provided above

[manuel]

Hope you have a backup.

[ricklinux]

[ricklinux@kde-plasma ~]$ sudo grub-install --no-nvram
[sudo] password for ricklinux: 
Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
Installation finished. No error reported.
[ricklinux@kde-plasma ~]$ 

Yes then it works.