(or only two, if we got rid of the light theme, but I don’t recommend that, because that would make unhappy all those users who really like staring into the sun)
The “bloated” theme would be the default, so that new users can be bombarded with banners, search bars, welcome messages, and all that bloat… And @Bryanpwo could experiment with adding even more bl features to it (maybe a search bar, but… hear me out… one that blinks!), without getting all the negativity from ungrateful people who don’t appreciate bl progress.
And once users figure out how to change the theme, they become worthy of enjoying a more efficient and streamlined UX. I think that would be a win for everyone.
Then we could rename the Lean theme to Experts (remove Bloated from default ), so anyone that uses it accepts he is an expert and not supposed to ask easy/silly questions, rather helping others with their issues.
I appreciate the point you are trying to make, but the math doesn’t actually work out this way. The 4592 number is total number of people who have signed up for the forum. Not the number of people who post on the forum. That number is much, much smaller. On top of that, there are other groups of users
Some people might dislike something but want to give it a longer chance before actively complaining
Some might see all the complaints here and feel like there is no need to add their voices to the pile
Some people are just not comfortable to post about this no matter how strongly they feel
My point is that if a forum our size has 23 posters who feel strongly enough about the change that they are speaking up about it, we need to consider what that means. That doesn’t mean we will always do what a certain group wants, but writing them off as a fringe group and ignoring them would be the wrong thing to do for a number of reasons.
It was kind of an exaggerated input to what I in some cases, specially the tone and content of some posts, felt to be quite an exaggerated reaction. It wasn’t meant to be taken at face value.
Of the total 23 posters in this thread, not all are speaking out against the changes. Those are quite a few and easily counted. There are some who has expressed themselves positively as well.
As it stands, in practice, since all the changes are reverted back, at least my conclusion of having followed the whole thread is that those few, however vociferous posts, have won the day for now.
From what of have seen, none of the consequent changes made to reach some middle-ground, could appease the “suckless” sense of a few users.
Your conclusion, while logical, isn’t entirely correct. There were just other priorities that got in the way in the short-term so the changes were temporarily reverted.
I find the attempts to marginalize a group of users somewhat disheartening.
Please remember that the reason for these changes must also be taken into account. For the changes to be worthwhile the benefit has to outweigh the negative opinions. In this case, that is a bit complicated because there were multiple changes with different reasons.
Not really. There were actually some great compromises suggested. The issue was that the forum software doesn’t support any of those compromises.
Those great suggestions, are great, no doubt, but impossible to implement due to what can and cannot be done with the forum software.
However, those that are supported by the forum software was rejected as well, or I might be mistaken?
I am not sure where this comes from. If you are getting this impression from what I have been saying, I am afraid you have got the wrong impression. I would appreciate if you could clarify that .
But in absence of a solution that would please all sides, one ought to err on the side of minimalism and simplicity. This is what makes EndeavourOS so successful, after all.
), without getting all the negativity from ungrateful people who don’t appreciate 
), so anyone that uses it accepts he is an expert and not supposed to ask easy/silly questions, rather helping others with their issues. 
