In the past Deepin has had some press about China using Deepin to track user information and use it to hack. Was that ever the case?"
The short answer is no, there has never been any evidence to support this idea.
The longer answer is that virtually every operating system does something to leak data. Whether it’s checking repositories for updates, sending search strings to on-line search engines, submitting hardware profiles, most web browsers identify their OS and can be fingerprinted, etc.
One person, for example, once claimed deepin’s software manager had machine-specific information that could be used to track the user. However, this was basically due to the nature of queries being sent and does not appear to have been an effort to track users. In the past I think deepin shipped with Chrome which defaults to sending telemetry to Google, though they’ve switched default browsers now.
Neither of these is really specific to deepin (versus other Linux distributions) and none of it appears to be connected to the Chinese government. Unless someone comes up with some source code which shows unusual tracking features (beyond what other distros include) I’d say such claims are baseless.
I don’t get what the big deal is. Proven or not, to me it always looked like tracking from any other regular app, you are already likely giving permissions to, on your phone. If you’re not comfortable with that, just use something else.
By far the biggest privacy offender is the US, from private companies to government agencies. Not sure why people trust them more than China. Both track you everywhere, both are equally susceptible to data leaks, both sell your data to the highest bidder.
It’s good to be cautious and minimize what the internet knows about you and your habits. But if you go above and beyond, at some point you’ll be giving up a lot of convenience for little privacy.
The system needs to change and catch up to the modern world.
I have read that with the addons one uses that can be an identifier to some extent , browser + addons + Distro , would not surprise me
inc using DDG wouldnt all the above , that be an identifier if they wanted to ?
let them be honest about it na they would never do that better to invade your life and sell you off, only way not to be tracked is to never ever ever go online , never use credit cards , use a dumb phone (ayy got that ) its a fact of modern life ,
I dont know how anyone can escape the grip of tracking.
Yes, but using DOH, or DOT, won’t help, you are just changing your point of trust from your ISP to another point.
The same goes for VPN, do you trust your VPN more than your ISP?
Take PIA VPN for an example, Kape Company bought PIA, do you know what they did in the past with their APP and data?
I would say that regarding browser fingerprint, even Brave browser is not perfect, if you check you will see that they every time you access a website, Brave gives you a random fingerprint, however the local time and browser language, codecs available, screen resolution and things like that don’t change.
Nowadays I would say that more you are trying to hide yourself, more you are drawing attention to yourself.
So very true 100% that a penguin will stick out from the sheep flock
A lot of Linux users do all they can to be invisible only the opposite is the result caused by the tactics used with browser addons etc etc.
and just the fact that using any Linux distro makes your identity online stand out from all the sheep Windoze users ( not as an insult to the people who use Windoze ), just there is so many of them compared to Linux users then trim it down to location , and there you are Linux user .
Less than 10% is that right … easy to track.
Privacy is a very individual choice and we all have a different point where tracking becomes concerning or intrusive. So far, we are having a positive conversation but since privacy is a topic that many people are very passionate about and the moderators often have to intervene in topics related to privacy concerns, I would ask everyone to stick to some ground rules here:
Be tolerant of people who have different perspectives than you.
No name calling. It is not OK to call someone “paranoid” who has privacy concerns nor it is OK to call someone “delusional” who doesn’t.
Don’t try to minimize each others positions. There are reasons to be concerned about privacy and reasons to not care.
In summary, be nice and treat each other with respect and all will be well.
If you do not have an adblock, you stand out too! I do not think anyone I know does not have one in their browser. So the new norm is adblock! For me it is not to stop fingerprinting (it is not possible today). I want to remove 3parts tracking. I can do that with adblock on layer 3 and adblock in the browser. I’m not trying to be a ghost, but to stop crap on websites. For example, Facebook like button. It is a web page in itself.
I struggle with the idea that if you can’t avoid being tracked 100% you should give up and not worry about tracking.
It can help if your DOH provider is more trustworthy than your ISP. In my case, I know that my ISP does heavy DNS tracking so I would prefer to take my risks with DOH. You can also send only portions of your traffic to different DOH providers if you want to get really elaborate.
I agree with your point but in my case the answer is “yes”.
I would say anyone who uses brave thinking they are protecting their privacy needs to take a deeper look at that product.
But to your point, yes, fingerprinting is very difficult to avoid. Our browsers leak too much information, most by necessity.
I agree, there isn’t a 100% safety guideline, if “they” want, they will see you.
Also, regarding the DOT or DOH, people, not saying you, usually uses Google or Cloudflare.
I don’t trust Google and Cloudflare, but that is up to my decision, not saying that these companies are bad, and that you are making a bad decision, is just like you said, everybody has a different idea about this.