EndeavourOS Built ontop of Archcraft

I refused to use it, the extras can be set up anywhere with a bit of research, like zorin just asking for money to do next to nothing in reality (my opinion don’t take as gospel)

Yeah fair, I don’t really support his use of PAYWALL to OPEN-SOURCE free configs that sure he might have spent time working on…I’m fine with the idea of a ko-fi or patreon if you want to Donate to support but having a 55$ iso for sale containing paid free stuff…is kinda scummy.

I do enjoy the free configs though and they are a nice starting point for newbs to ricing XD…cause the issue I find is many videos and posts for ricing dont ever go into detail…they do the basic oh install i3, install this…but then just have you download a .sh script or clone . files that are already set up…its hard to find goood ACTUAL tutorial videos that are up-to-date -ish.

I’m not one to completely boycott something just cause of scummy practices…cause if I did…I’d have to stop use of steam XD…since nothing you buy there is truly yours…Long Live GOG :smiley:

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The whole “ricing” customization scene truly is just a giant OH install some basic packages, then clone my git makes it really difficult to learn more in-depthy I find…at least for my case who enjoys doing alongside a video…I learn better that way. Especially hard to learn when the “riced-repo” contains hundreds of folders and files…

The same issue I have with NIxOS and Nix content…they follow the same kind of aspect with poor descriptions and tutorials that are vague and eventually lead to them getting you to clone git repos…which are huge piles of stuff to read and breakdown or hope to breakdown.

Unlike some things where you can get clear information on how to do something, steps needed, broken down in follow-able instructions with at least clear enough info to understand learn and adapt to your needs. Hence why I love RaspberryPi as they tend to have better tutorials and documentations. Also Endeavour seems to be better in regards to this than others.

Yer I just removed steam the other day, I have about 30 games on there but also rarely play them, gog (have almost the same amount of games here) is great as I can just download and keep the installer backed up, bought rpg maker xp a few months back and just bought through the site as I don’t need steam just my key to activate it (fully belvieve in paying for things like this but also don’t want to jump throught hoops of fire to prove I did or be online)

I think Zorin also offers customer support. Don’t know if it’s any good, though.
For that matter, so does Archcraft. Again, don’t know if it’s any good, as I’ve never needed it.

Apart from customer support, either distro took time to make and takes time to maintain, so offering a paid version is completely okay in my opinion. Especially since the default can be used to rice any other GTK-based WM/DE/WC. The users just needs to do it themselves.

“If you like it, then you should put a ring on it?” :laughing:

I have 100’s of items on steam, I use steam lots…Its unfortunate that their licensing is the way it is, however its just the way the world is now adays and sadly GOG doesn’t have all the games I play or software provided on their. So I’m stuck using it and along side GOG…but steam is definitely more consumer friendly than many others…cough epic, ea, ubisoft, etc…

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Yer I tend to bend the law with my steam purchases, as far as I’m concerned I paid so the devs got paid and if they didn’t thats on steam, what I do after is on me and up to a court that can be bothered to decide

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Just being straight up, it’s a grey area I admit but I did pay and have the receipts

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The use of Yer, and bend the law just makes me think you sail Close to the seven seas :laughing: but I feel you, the use of grey-area keysites is a staple to keep costs low XD. Especially with some companies like paradox…trying to strong arm you into subscription service for DLC.

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I do wish more detailed and less clone my repo tutorials existed on ricing… IDK how many hours wasted watching videos of vimjoyer, typecraft, etc…all to get not much further understanding… One guy who had a 4 hour stream to get NixOS on a Pi4B who I gave up after 2 hours of him getting as far as I did in 15 mins…

Side effect of living down under hey

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I tend to be able to setup xfce or kde in about 20 to 30 minutes depending on net speed to get it where I like and slowly implement the rest when I’m bored

I guess, side effects of cultural norms :stuck_out_tongue:, just like I picked up the act of pointing with lips instead of hand…as its culturally norm to do so.

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See, XFCE and KDE are simpler to rice…mainly due to being around much longer, better built in tools to rice…less finiky typing conf files…they also are organized a bit better for its files. I can get a KDE and XFCE up and running pretty quick too…its theese darn Tiling window-managers that are a mess XD well that and NixOS :smiley:

Both XFCE & KDE need very little EXTRA packages and tools to be able too get a clean nice setup…why I always have them installed at least…mainly KDE cause I prefer ir…I cant stand gnome, meanwhile things like i3, bspwm, hyprland, awesome, dwm all require extra packages not pre-installed with it…not pre-configured to work with it, require editing many files, some even needing specific language files resulting in a pain to work with XD…but i like tiling window managers flow :skull_and_crossbones: at least for my laptops and SBC’s…

Once i finally learn Nix and Home-manager…I might be able to streamline that significaly more and manage to migrate between systems easier…but thats a whole other slew of learning XD.

I remember when I first moved to the city and people wanting you to look them in the eye, where I come from this is disrespectful, in the city not doing it was had to re-learn a lot of body language

Yeah…I personally hate eye contact for the same reason. IDk why many cultures evolved to view it as being respectful to stare into someones eyes while speaking…I mean most animals its a sign of aggression and the opposite of respect. I just dare someone to do a staring contest with a silverback and see what happens next…

There are some install scripts provided by eos for some of these, someone shared just earlier, was probably this thread knowing me an memory.

Was a different thread I started, and yeah…they do have configs for them. Bspwm not maintained anymore, idk about awesome & dwm…and hyprland Ignore cause wayalnd doesnt work on VM or Nvidia GPU’s really. The I3 Config for EndevourOS is…barebones imo…it works and its pleasant…but lacking for me personally. I just so use to some of the features in Archcrafts…

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The end goal is try and make a repo for EndeavourOS that makes a more-similar i3/bspwm config/install for users to use. Hence why I’ve done what I’ve done hahaha to slowly learn how archcraft is made, how to make my own config and better orgnaize it…However slow and tedious process since as stated…RICING tutorials suck and just want you to clone their repo with NO desciption or smaller steps and explanation.

Hence why I am doing this…I want to take what I like from archcraft…make it more organized and less messy. Document my jounrey…so others who like me…hate the way info for ricing is made…and have something they can read…and have clearer more precise info on how to make said config without just cloning the repo…

Ideally having a well documented, and I will most likely keep maintaining it for my life anyways information and help for others who don’t know how to rice themselves, and dislike repo-cloning and want to do it themselves…and take only what they want…with good info.

What i3 should be really, designed more as a place to develop than play (well thats what I tell myself and just leave as is, add just what I need and no extra and the extra stuff is also pretty easy to a once you set up once (just copy those dot files and take note of anything they might be refering to an make sure to install (tint2 ect) copy over the dot files and reboot and back to what I am used to seeing