Difference resp. advantages gnome vs. xfce

I remember reading about it but for some reason I don’t think it works with qt/kde. It should work fine in Cinnamon though.

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I agree with Joshua Strobl 100%

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Perhaps. I never tried them in qt/kde.

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same

On XFCE since it uses Xiccd instead of colord some applications dont like to pick up the color profiles, I also use to have the profile disappear or just not work with Xiccd but its been a while. Gnome also has built in tools for calibrating a display but displcaycal is still better but at least with gnome itself you can inspect the icc profile in the settings menu. You can apply a profile to GDM also if you apply a profile to all users so that GDM and the Desktop are both corrected for your display.

The biggest issue youll run into is still that the desktop itself isnt color managed so it isnt corrected for your display color space if you use a wide gamut monitor. i think only MacOS actually color manages the entire desktop so its no different from windows. Use an image viewer like Geeqie for viewing images with corrections.

If you do, let me know. I like the idea of the having the workspace over view.

On my KDE I setup the meta+spacebar to pull up the same as the top left hot corner switcher thing.

It would be cool for the gesture though.

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Sure I will. I’ll have a go at it during this weekend and let you know if I can make it work in KDE as well.
In Cinnamon it does work with the pair of packages I mentioned.

I would argue 2 things here

  1. Some of this is taken either out of context or not explaining the entire picture. We are all able to freely look at the discussion regarding the Themeing API theyre looking to implement and the discussion on it. One of the things theyre looking for is input from the likes of Ubuntu, Solus, etc. on what exactly is needed and finding a way to implement that within gnomes guidelines. They want to work together on a solution that isnt just a hack. This has come up when this was discussed previously and none of them offered up to help on it a couple years ago and now they either get upset, threaten to leave, or snip out the best bits from some inflammatory members of Gnome.

  2. This Video in there (it has some good points but im going to criticize one part) HotTake: Gnome is not a free software community (kind of) - YouTube
    talking about Tobias and his https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2021/07/13/community-power-4/ takes Tobias as the Singular voice for all the Gnome folks, and he simply isnt. Tobias made an incredibly poor post and has on more than one occasion made detrimental statements and almost posting himself as the Gnome voice. Georges Stavracas, one Gnome developer i have deep respect for, had this to say in response. https://feaneron.com/2021/07/13/on-building-bridges/

There are some fair criticisms in Strobls blog and i dont entirely disagree, but also some of it was picked specifically to reinforce the view shown vs providing a detailed picture. Instead of taking single peoples words on these things lets actually take the time to look through the discussions on the topics from the source and take the views of not just a single Gnome person or persons upset at Gnome.

EDIT: I also want to make it clear, While I am a fan of GNOME I will absolutely call them out on their bull$#*t when needed. This whole case of the Themeing API has been a mess of people on both sides either taking things out of context or slinging mud with people in the middle getting covered in it.

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There really are some stupid apps in Gnome that i dont understand. I would also complain about Cheese being a required package. It is one of my biggest annoyances along with the fact that some of the classes of apps have 3 different ones for the same purpose with only one being actually decent.

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Just to add in a note - there exists an xfce4-hotcorner-plugin which should solve missing hot corner access problems. A quick look in the AUR shows it orphaned, however, but the -git version does not show that. I’ve never tried it (yet), so no help there!

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https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/tutorial-easy-setup-endeavour-xfce-i3-tiling-window-manager/13171

like this? :thinking:

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You should just be able to drag each window to it’s respective corner.

It does not snap together that I remember though.

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Completed. Without any error. File count is the same on dest and src.

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The last update (to v0.0.2 was in 2015) https://github.com/brianhsu/xfce4-hotcorner-plugin so I’ll pass for now.

There’s some tips here: https://mxlinux.org/wiki/applications/hotcorner/ but the main one involves making a Python 2.7 package, so I’m not sure it will work on Arch/:enos:, and I’m not desperate enough for hot corners.

Too complicated… (too many steps). I thought they were saying that xfce has a tiling mode implemented which I was not aware of, which it seems kind of via keyboard shortcuts since it can tile 2x2.

If I would involve i3, I would just sudo pacman -S i3 and login to that session.

Although @fbodymechanic combined xfce-i3 is surely great!

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But besides these, they also have some very useful and polished apps, which I was referring too earlier in the discussion. Not recipe, tetris, or etc. these type of apps do not come with the gnome desktop when installed on eos.

Same for plasma, one can install the bare plasma or add the extra group with tons of kapps bloatware. They are available if one needs them.

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Luckily yeah, I think on Ubuntu if you install Vanilla Gnome it still brings everything and the kitchen sink.

If you want very simple i3 style tiling in xfce - you really should check out zentile. Tiling workspaces on demand.

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That’s only 6 years ago…

OK - that pretty much lets THAT out of the conversation! I haven’t missed them all THAT much myself, which is why I haven’t tried it (or investigated deeply enough to catch the date). Besides, with variable numbers of monitors (depending on which setup I’m on) deciding which corners should be hot might be challenging!

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Haha yes! :confounded: