Desktop reactions?

Mine’s different for sure. I did change it to qogir dark and i see that some things disappear on the panel. So i agree with you.

Edit: If i leave it as installed via the github instructions everything seems fine but if i start changing things it will probably not be fine.

Thanks for the feedback. This is the bug I filed about the icons:

The missing icons I have filed here:

The Screenshot utility bug when cancelling:

Hopefully by the end of the summer there will be lots of fixes so we can see where things go. All and all I am impressed by the work they did.

Yeah, I saw that one…glad Brodie is excited :slight_smile:

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The title of this video is funny because Cinnamon has been better than Gnome for years. More like “KDE and Cinnamon Finally Have A Real Competitor.”

Outside of Wayland support, there’s nothing Gnome can do that Cinnamon can’t. While there’s plenty CInnamon does that Gnome can’t.

PS: I know the title is based on the default DE context. It’s similar to the way Windows is the default OS even though it’s not the best thing available, but it has huge funding and adoption so…

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There’s plenty possible with Gnome when using extensions and I don’t like the way Cinnamon does overview compared to how Gnome does it. I haven’t used Cinnamon in a very long time, just recently in a vm so not sure if I’m missing something.

I know Gnome can do things (with extensions). I’m saying Cinnamon can do them all and then some (out of the box and with extensions).

Cinnamon has two overview styles: horizontal and grid. Apart from vertical, which would be weird imho, what don’t you like? Maybe dragging and dropping windows?

As I said, it’s similar to the MS Windows situation - more funding going to the default. If Cinnamon had the same funding, and kept their mantra of providing a modern Gnome 2 experience, I have no doubt it would be difficult to choose between KDE and Cinnamon for users who like having a proper taskbar, file manager, and system settings. Let’s not forget that Gnome’s limitations also include their stripped-down file manager and system settings. It’s not just the taskbar and libadwaita propaganda.

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Exactly. That’s why out of the DEs that are related to Gnome in one way or another, Cinnamon is still top dog, IMHO.

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For me, Gnome still gives me hives. I am not entirely sure why, I was excited when Miguel de Icasa first talked about it. Maybe it’s the ‘my way or the highway’ that I’m allergic too.

That’s one reason for me, for sure. The other reason is that, to me, it feels so claustrophobic.

Yep. KDE and Cinnamon stand by the “It’s your computer. Do with it as you please” mantra, while Gnome have adopted Apple’s mantra, “You are a guest here. Please use as instructed and put things back the way you found them.”

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With Cinnamon it seems I have to activate hot corners and drag my mouse into one of corners, with Gnome I can just press the meta key and then get an overview. I like how minimalistic Gnome is and that if you want you can add things as you like with extensions. I don’t think one DE is better than another DE, it just comes down to preference. I actually switched over to Hyprland because I liked the tiling setup, but have it looking similar to how I had m my top panel setup with a few less things that I never used anyways.

This is true.

You don’t need hot corners to activate the Overview, and you can bind it to pretty much any shortcut you want.

I see people say this all the time, and I always wonder what they see when they get a stock Cinnamon or KDE install. It’s almost just as simple, but with sane/expected defaults.

In contrast, Gnome, out of the box, looks alien in comparison to every other DE, even or especially for Windows and Mac users.

Like you said, though - it’s a preference thing.

There i was think the thread was about the “ Cosmic DE “ maybe take KDE/ Cinnamon + Gnome (love affair) to another thread.

So true !!

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@ddnn said.

Which was about the shared video about Cosmic, so I commented on the Gnome and Cinnamon part, that’s how we got here :rofl: .

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And since I started the thread, I don’t mind meandering about for a stroll.

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I was just thinking of typing my reaction to Cosmic, I swear.

I typed it elsewhere before (on AlternativeTo and Twitter). Basically, it’s a cool idea, but it’s not ready for creatives with thousands of files in a folder. Cosmic Files cannot handle it, and when you try to use Dolphin or Nemo to access said folders, it may just restart the desktop, closing everything you had open. This desktop restart also happened when running a pixel graphics Steam game.

It has some way to go, and I wouldn’t even consider it if Cinnamon had optional autotiling and full Wayland support. And I wouldn’t even consider Cinnamon if KDE 6+ wasn’t too resource-intensive for my 8-year-old laptop.

But would I wish my uber modern resource heavy pc to have to be burdened with only a TUI because some older models can’t handle it? (I know you’re not saying that)
It’s choices again, and if you have the resources, might as well use them vs not (same as linux using caching memory vs leaving it idle), so I welcome going in new directions :slight_smile:

And this is one of my reasons why I love Linux. KDE becomes too modern for my computer? Use Cinnamon. Cinnamon becomes too modern for my computer? Use Openbox. :blush:

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Plasma runs just fine on my 8 year old laptop, but then it was a beast at the time.

In my opinion, Plasma doesn’t have any competition. It’s the most usable and configurable desktop there is which can be set up exactly as you want it using the built in settings and third party addons. There is a dirty little secret about plasma though, you get a perfectly usable desktop out of the box and you don’t have to tweak any settings if you don’t want to.

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