# Desktop Environment or Window Manager? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [December 8, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227 "2020-12-08T20:45:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Christopher67](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/christopher67/32/20118_2.png) [@Christopher67](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Christopher67)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/41 "2020-12-09T02:41:14Z")
Thanks @anon53396576👍🏼 ---
**Author:** ![cipolla](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cipolla/32/7082_2.png) [@cipolla](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cipolla)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/42 "2020-12-09T08:53:57Z")
> [@Alexander](#): > > I have a partition of EnOS with i3. The learning curve is a little hard so I much prefer a D.E. I agree, you need some time to learn it but for me it was worth it, I’m faster with i3 and there not a lot of packages installed, that’s also why I like it a lot 😃 ---
**Author:** ![anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon75994754)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/43 "2020-12-09T11:36:01Z")
@ricklinux EOS i3 work perfect out of box !! no flash, no pointless stuff it only have what you need to start. it clean and fast like DE if it no installed what you need then " sudo pacman -S " 😊 ---
**Author:** ![nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/nigelwarning/32/18267_2.png) [@nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/nigelwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/44 "2020-12-09T11:43:56Z")
I am using Desktop Enviroments since the beginning of my usage of Linux. I do love the unixporn posts of the different WMS. I want to try a WM maybe sometime. Don’t know what the easiest WM is to step into? i3? And is it still possible like on KDE to let QT and GTK apps look the same? Always love to try to learn something 😃 ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/45 "2020-12-09T11:48:49Z")
This is a trap!!! 😂 They’ve riced it for 130 years before posting!! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/nigelwarning/32/18267_2.png) [@nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/nigelwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/46 "2020-12-09T11:53:29Z")
Hahaha, atm downloaded a few isos. Gonna try awesome, openbox, i3 today. Maybe try some others. I really want to learn something again. I am running Arch KDE for sometime now, and I miss learning new stuff atm. ---
**Author:** ![linesma](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/linesma/32/9254_2.png) [@linesma](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/linesma)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/47 "2020-12-09T11:53:55Z")
For me personally, it is a Desktop Environment. I have never really gotten into using a Windows Manager. However, it is on my list of things to try out someday. ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/48 "2020-12-09T11:54:31Z")
> [@cipolla](#): > > you should use a WM if you are lazy I have used i3 for quite some time. I have an my configs and dot files. I’m too lazy to use it anymore. It’s too much work for me and generally prefer a full DE. What wm would you suggest me to use that is less effort than i3 and subsequently, less effort than the DE’s I think are easier than i3? ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/49 "2020-12-09T11:58:00Z")
My suggestion would be to try a distro with one of them. I would use Endeavour i3, and make all of your adjustments to the config files you want until you get it as you’d like. Save your json and dot files before going to Arch i3. Unless you really want to build it from nothing. ---
**Author:** ![nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/nigelwarning/32/18267_2.png) [@nigelwarning](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/nigelwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/50 "2020-12-09T12:01:07Z")
Sounds like a good plan. I will first try it in a vm ofcourse. Although Arch KDE is doing good! I just want to get a bit more minimal 😃 ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/51 "2020-12-09T12:03:09Z")
There is rice-iso out there: > **[Archcraft - Gallery](https://archcraft-os.github.io/gallery.html)** Maybe a good out of the box start, but i’d prefer to dive in deep! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon75994754)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/52 "2020-12-09T13:06:47Z")
@keybreak sink or swim … best way 🖖🏻 ---
**Author:** ![cipolla](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cipolla/32/7082_2.png) [@cipolla](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cipolla)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/53 "2020-12-09T13:57:50Z")
> [@anon63071375](#): > > What wm would you suggest me to use that is less effort than i3 and subsequently, less effort than the DE’s I think are easier than i3? maybe this video can help: 🙂 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wGXdqZv71CA/maxresdefault.jpg "The Top 8 Linux Window Managers of 2020") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGXdqZv71CA) anyway, I had chosen i3, why it’s not very difficult to learn, it’s very well documented and it’s still updated regularly you can find a lot of videos and config files of i3 and then I’ve moved to SwayWM on Wayland ---
**Author:** ![anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon75994754)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/54 "2020-12-09T14:16:00Z")
All tiling WM need effort… same for DE if you make it own style @cipolla most of that is not new tile wm friendly … good video + i like DT’s channel 😊 it helpful for all levels ---
**Author:** ![anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@anon63071375](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon63071375)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/55 "2020-12-09T15:50:59Z")
> [@cipolla](#): > > maybe this video can help I don’t need help. I’m fairly well versed in it. Is just more effort than I care to input anymore. Thank you though. ---
**Author:** ![fosskers](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fosskers/32/99793_2.png) [@fosskers](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/fosskers)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/56 "2020-12-09T16:07:36Z")
I switched to i3 from Xmonad a few months ago and don’t regret it. It has sane defaults and performs better, so I’m happy! Haven’t had a full DE in years. ---
**Author:** ![ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ricklinux/32/110798_2.png) [@ricklinux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ricklinux)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/57 "2020-12-09T16:12:38Z")
What i meant was if i3 or any window manager is already set up. I find it hard to figure out how to set it up. I know little about the configs. How to change it, how to set it up? Most people don’t want to do these things. That is what i meant that it is already pre-configured. ---
**Author:** ![fosskers](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fosskers/32/99793_2.png) [@fosskers](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/fosskers)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/58 "2020-12-09T16:43:45Z")
Oh `i3` has great defaults. I’ve barely touched mine. Endeavour seems to jazz it up even more. ---
**Author:** ![anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon75994754)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/59 "2020-12-09T16:45:25Z")
@ricklinux no directed at you 🙏 . if you want set up done then Endeavouros i3 you no go wrong 👍 ---
**Author:** ![anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon75994754](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon75994754)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227/60 "2020-12-09T16:52:02Z")
Xmonad is great… i switch other way 😊 prefer simple config now + manual tiling [Previous page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/desktop-environment-or-window-manager/10227.md?page=4)