# Delay yay/pacman updates! **URL:** \ **Category:** Newbie\ **Created:** [August 26, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756 "2022-08-26T13:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/21 "2022-08-26T13:43:15Z")
> [@dalto](#): > > Honestly, this feels like a knee-jerk reaction to an issue we haven’t even fully determined the root cause of yet. You are right! I was just thinking if there is a way! > [@dalto](#): > > manually manage repos the way Manjaro does. manage repos “manually”? No way I can think of something like that… no matter what! ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ben/32/9270_2.png) [@Ben](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/22 "2022-08-26T13:47:35Z")
> [@limotux](#): > > As far as I understand, Manjaro have their own servers, where they pull packages a little bit delayed… when it is already tested and no serious problems with it. > > Maybe there is a way to do something similar through yay/pacman? This is a highly technical solution, so bear with me while I explain. 1. Decide the amount of time we wish to delay - let’s go for 48 hours. 2. Now we set an ALARM - assuming that it’s Friday 26th August, we set our alarm for Monday 29th August. 3. When the alarm goes off we run ‘yay’. ---
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/23 "2022-08-26T13:49:11Z")
Just curious is there a “bullet proof” boot loader (sort of), I know in software there is nothing bullet proof. I mean a stable/simple boot loader that is not subject to lots of issues by design. I have read about reFind and how "reliable it is. I read something about a systemd boot loader… but I have no clue! I care about something that can handle snapshots (BTRFS), single OS (EndeavourOS) ---
**Author:** ![yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/yum13241)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/24 "2022-08-26T13:52:23Z")
Maybe as a cron job? lol ---
**Author:** ![yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/yum13241)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/25 "2022-08-26T13:53:45Z")
rEFInd can chainload into grub for the btrfs snapshots. it seems that there is `3) chaotic-aur/refind-btrfs 0.4.4-1 [installed] ` Generate rEFInd manual boot stanzas from Btrfs snapshots ---
**Author:** ![r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/r0ckhopper/32/51768_2.png) [@r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/r0ckhopper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/26 "2022-08-26T13:55:10Z")
I made this proposal yesterday… as a joke 🤡 > [@Grub 2:2.06.r322.gd9b4638c5-1 won't boot and goes straight to the BIOS after update](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/grub-2-2-06-r322-gd9b4638c5-1-wont-boot-and-goes-straight-to-the-bios-after-update/30653/23): > > Perhaps enos should follow the example of a certain other Arch based distro, and hold back updates for a couple of weeks, then release them in a bundle? [Locks self in nuclear bunker radioactive to avoid missile strikes rocketa] The current bug with the grub update has still not been fully identified and confirmed, and it’s a package from the Arch repos anyway. So delaying by 48 hours would not spare you. The suggestion of @yum13241 to try openSUSE Tumbleweed is not a bad idea. It has its own idiosyncrasies, but requires less user management overall than Arch/Endeavour. ---
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/27 "2022-08-26T13:57:22Z")
> [@r0ckhopper](#): > > to try openSUSE Tumbleweed is not a bad idea I am enjoying it here mainly because of the wonderful community. > [@Grub 2:2.06.r322.gd9b4638c5-1 won't boot and goes straight to the BIOS after update](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/grub-2-2-06-r322-gd9b4638c5-1-wont-boot-and-goes-straight-to-the-bios-after-update/30653/23): > > should follow the example of a certain other Arch based distro, and hold back updates for a couple of weeks I do not believe in “following” others… following means you will nefer be the first… you will never be the leader! What I hope for is brainstorming to get even better and others follow. ---
**Author:** ![yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/yum13241)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/28 "2022-08-26T13:58:11Z")
I agree with you. Also zypper is actually quite good, except for the atrociously long time it takes to refresh mirrors (i have openSUSE tumbleweed on a very weak PC, so it might just be the wifi card being crap). depain apt users will especially feel at home `sudo zypper dup` OR `sudo zypper dist-upgrade` done! also the OBS has more binaries than the AUR ever will. and while YaST might be a selling point for some, I alr troubleshoot using Qwant and Yaukake anyway. It’s more of a Just Works ™ distro. ---
**Author:** ![r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/r0ckhopper/32/51768_2.png) [@r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/r0ckhopper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/29 "2022-08-26T13:58:31Z")
> [@limotux](#): > > enjoying it here mainly because of the wonderful community Others here run different distros to :enos: All are welcome 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/yum13241)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/30 "2022-08-26T13:59:59Z")
yep. even manjaro users are allowed here. Recommending Manjaro isn’t 🤣 :openSUSE: should be an emoji here lol ---
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/31 "2022-08-26T14:04:13Z")
> [@yum13241](#): > > even manjaro users are allowed here I have been there… and… with all my due respect… well… OK if you say so! ---
**Author:** ![yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@yum13241](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/yum13241)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/32 "2022-08-26T14:06:41Z")
Yeah I used to use Manjaro. when a redditor told me it was bad, i researched their claims and believe them. I installed endeavorOS and at first regretted it (loss of cool theme and such) Now I’m here, and I’m liking it. ---
**Author:** ![Triby](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/triby/32/47745_2.png) [@Triby](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Triby)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/33 "2022-08-26T14:07:30Z")
Linux isn’t perfect and it may have some issues after an upgrade on all distros and we all know that arch and derivatives could get them anytime, but the best thing of it is that there’s communitites where you can find the solution, some times you just need to downgrade a package, but some times, you need to run additional commands / installs to really solve the issue. Yeah, every package should be tested at first, but nobody can guarantee that a broken one go to stable repos from time to time. So, the real question is if you can live with these possible issues or not. Delaying updates is not compatible with rolling release concept. My first distro was Debian / Ubuntu based and it were pretty stable but not “free of issues” at all, in fact, I’ve found EndeavourOS much more stable and I’m applying updates almost daily. So, I can live with the “danger” of getting a broken package, knowing that I’ll find a solution even if offending package is still on upstream. ---
**Author:** ![sradjoker](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sradjoker/32/64224_2.png) [@sradjoker](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/sradjoker)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/35 "2022-08-26T14:12:55Z")
I feel that this is going OT ---
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/36 "2022-08-26T14:15:29Z")
> [@Triby](#): > > nobody can guarantee that a broken one go to stable repos from time to time. The ABCs of software development or software in general… bugs are a main ingredient… But honestly… since I quit Windoze since 2000, I never looked back. Simply because windoze is broken most of the time… while Linux is working most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/limotux/32/35347_2.png) [@limotux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/limotux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/37 "2022-08-26T14:17:01Z")
> [@sradjoker](#): > > I feel that this is going OT You are right… it just happened… sorry! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ea52f9fd5ef8e609e593c362d61a36295f48be8.png) [@system](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/delay-yay-pacman-updates/30756/38 "2022-08-28T14:17:07Z")
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