Cassini, packed with new features, is here

Oh, Balder mentioned something about not being able to do it with dracut and since the new setup has this as default I thought there would be problems with it. Or did I over read this post and it is just related to his setup.

Booting snapshots only works with Grub anyway, systemd-boot can’t do that. And currently it doesn’t seem to work with Dracut yet either. Dalto wrote that it is being worked on though. Seems to be rather a personnel problem of the development of Dracut. Let’s see how long it stays built into EOS …

I guess I will be sticking with the old image for now. I have kids that like to get on my computer and snapper is a great time saver sometimes.

I thought so. A couple of updates arrived today for my daily machine, approx. 11 pcs. I update daily or every two days. Roughly how many packages are expected to be updated, from which I will notice that this is already Cassini?

This is the best thing about EOS. It gives everyone the freedom to customize it to their own needs, but at the same time it’s surprisingly stable and even beginner-friendly.

You won’t notice Cassini since there is no system release called Cassini to upgrade to.

Cassini is only the name of the new ISO with some new features in the installer which only impact new installs. If you want those new features like dracut or systemd-boot, you would need to implement it yourself.

The only package that I can think of that actually gets updated for Cassini in an existing system is the branding package which contains mostly images.

Generally speaking, the system is rolling and you will always get the latest packages.

Yes, I know that with a rolling release there is no special sign that the packages are updated to a new release. However, the background image of the desktop usually changes, this is a telling sign. The interesting thing is that on my desktop computer, which I use more often, I have not yet noticed that the wallpaper has changed, so the packages have not even been updated to the ones in Cassini, but on my laptop, which is used much less often, after updating more than a hundred packages, the new wallpaper is already visible. i.e. the update to the packages in Cassini has already taken place. I thought that if I updated both machines on the same day, both would receive the updates in question on the same day.

This is exactly what I wrote in my reply to @pebcak above. :slight_smile:

On a rolling release there is no new release :wink:

In this particular case, apart from that one package mentioned by @dalto above, there shouldn’t be any “special sign” indicating you are on Cassini and not Artemis. That is sudo pacman -Syu and rolling business as usual.

I know, the term release is not a good word for this, it would be more correct to call it a snapshot or a milestone.
PS. I guess you already agree with me about what I meant? :slight_smile: That is, on a machine that is used more often, it is more likely that the packages will be updated earlier than on a device that is used less often. It is true, however, that the latter machine receives many new packages at the same time due to the less frequent updates.

Well, I didn’t notice the installation of the new packages because the background of the desktop was customized, but I also found the default new EOS wallpaper. Otherwise, everything continues smoothly, as before.

What’s wrong with the new XFCE?

May I use that to replace my so lacking in contrast avatar, with your permission @anon11595408 ?

Cassini and Artemis and all those other fancy names, they do not refer to the installed system. The OS you have installed on your computer is simply EndeavourOS (actually, it’s Arch, with branding changed, by a hook that runs a script that literally substitutes the string “Arch” to “EndeavourOS” in the /etc/lsb-release file).

I repeat, your installed system is not Cassini. It is also not Artemis. It’s just EndeavourOS. It’s a rolling release distro, it does not have an OS version. Only individual packages have their version numbers (e.g. the linux package currently has version 6.1.1.arch1-1).

“Cassini” is the name of the ISO installer. Nothing else. The installer on the Cassini ISO installs different set of packages by default than the installer on the Artemis ISO. All those packages, however, come from the Arch and EndeavourOS repos, and when you run pacman -Syu on your installed system, these installed packages get updated to the latest version (according to the versions on the mirror server you’re using). After you’ve used your installed operating system for a while, made some configuration changes, installed additional software, etc… your installed system looks nothing like the ISO image, so it wouldn’t make any sense to call your installed system “Cassini”.

When you update your installed system, no additional packages get installed and no packages get removed (there is an exception to this when there is some dependency change or something unusual like that, but that rarely happens, and when it does, pacman warns you about it and prompts you, before continuing).

So you are not updating from Artemis to Cassini, that doesn’t even make any sense, because Artemis and Cassini are just fixed, static ISO images on your USB drive (or DVD), and which are read-only.

You’re referring to snapper’s snapshots, are you?

I’ve just tested with Timeshift snapshots and grub-btrfs and it works as usual even with dracut.

dracut supports booting off of snapshots.

However, if you have read-only snapshots(which you should), they will be booted in read-only mode because grub-btrfs doesn’t yet have support for adding an overlay. The code to do that has been committed, but it hasn’t been merged yet.

Timeshift works because it takes read/write snapshots which is honestly problematic in some circumstances.

@HMS_Endeavour - That’s for you to decide, me thinks. The picture originally(???) stems from this site:

I know for a fact I do. My great, great, great grandfather on my mother’s side was on the first fleet on that very ship. We found his name listed as a 2nd class passenger in the HRA (historical records of Australia) I always thought we would have been convicts.

Should have read,

You’ve been coming along somewhat pirateish, ever since we’ve been crossing sabers on here, although I usually prefer my broadsword… :laughing: :wink: