# Budgie not starting correctly

**URL:** <https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367>\
**Category:** Budgie\
**Created:** [March 23, 2025, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367 "2025-03-23T09:09:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/1 "2025-03-23T09:09:47Z")

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After latest update via yay Budgie doesn’t start right. After login a white screen appears which tells me that there is a problem. After logout and login again I only see black screen with desktop icons. No menus etc. at all ☹

Via desktop icon I can open Nemo. But in the windows the symbols for min/max/ close window are missing.

This are the packages that were upgraded:

```auto
2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded abseil-cpp (20250127.0-2 -> 20250127.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded adwaita-cursors (47.0-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded adwaita-icon-theme (47.0-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded dnsmasq (2.90-2 -> 2.91-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libsysprof-capture (47.2-3 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gsettings-system-schemas (47.1-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] installed adwaita-fonts (48.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gsettings-desktop-schemas (47.1-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libsecret (0.21.6-1 -> 0.21.7-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gcr-4 (4.3.1-1 -> 4.4.0.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libarchive (3.7.7-3 -> 3.7.7-4)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libsoup3 (3.6.4-1 -> 3.6.5-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded mpfr (4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libsynctex (2025.1-1 -> 2025.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded librsvg (2:2.59.2-1 -> 2:2.60.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gtk-update-icon-cache (1:4.16.12-1 -> 1:4.18.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded tinysparql (3.8.2-3 -> 3.9.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (1:25.0.1-2 -> 1:25.0.2-2)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libidn (1.42-1 -> 1.43-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded evince (46.3.1-2 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:31+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gjs (2:1.82.1-2 -> 2:1.84.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded glances (4.3.0.8-2 -> 4.3.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-keyring (1:46.2-1 -> 1:48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-settings-daemon (47.2-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vte-common (0.78.4-1 -> 0.80.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vte3 (0.78.4-1 -> 0.80.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-terminal (3.54.4-1 -> 3.56.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vulkan-icd-loader (1.4.304.1-1 -> 1.4.309.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gtk4 (1:4.16.12-1 -> 1:4.18.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-afc (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-dnssd (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-gphoto2 (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-mtp (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-nfs (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gvfs-smb (1.56.1-3 -> 1.57.2-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-libx11 (1.8.11-1 -> 1.8.12-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-mesa (1:25.0.1-2 -> 1:25.0.2-2)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-vulkan-icd-loader (1.4.304.1-1 -> 1.4.309.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libadwaita (1:1.6.5-1 -> 1:1.7.0-2)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libei (1.3.0-1 -> 1.4.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libnautilus-extension (47.2-1 -> 48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libxnvctrl (570.124.04-1 -> 570.133.07-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] installed python-argcomplete (3.5.3-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded python-gobject (3.50.0-2 -> 3.52.3-2)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded mutter (47.6-1 -> 48.0-3)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded python-pyparsing (3.1.2-3 -> 3.2.1-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vulkan-headers (1:1.4.304.1-2 -> 1:1.4.309.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:33+0100] [ALPM] upgraded webkit2gtk-4.1 (2.46.6-2 -> 2.48.0-1)
[2025-03-23T09:02:33+0100] [ALPM] upgraded zenity (4.0.5-1 -> 4.1.90-1)

```

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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/2 "2025-03-23T10:30:50Z")

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found this [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=304403](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=304403)

On my laptop downgrading mutter works. But on my desktop system it doesn’t ☹

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**Author:** ![ck0ber](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/ck0ber/32/117969_2.png) [@ck0ber](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/ck0ber)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/3 "2025-03-23T12:01:47Z")

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I have the same problem!

/CK

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**Author:** ![eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eso/32/36767_2.png) [@eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eso)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/4 "2025-03-23T12:48:18Z")

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Technically the temporary workaround look like this:  
CTRL+Alt+F2  
log in

```auto
su
downgrade mutter

```

extra/mutter 47.6-1 lets you in.  
in /etc/pacman.conf  
IgnorePkg = mutter  
can be lifted later

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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/5 "2025-03-23T14:39:00Z")

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Downgraded to 46.0-3. Worked only on one machine. Same with 47.6-1

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**Author:** ![eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eso/32/36767_2.png) [@eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eso)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/6 "2025-03-23T15:13:07Z")

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Idk. I would try update first with  
`yay`  
and then downgrade mutter

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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/7 "2025-03-23T20:51:29Z")

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Sadly no solution. Even the new mutter version 48.0-4 does not help.

For the moment i stay with an older version. With that I can access the desktop in a limited form. And thanks to a console shortcut I can open apps 🙂

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/8 "2025-03-23T22:35:29Z")

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> <https://github.com/BuddiesOfBudgie/budgie-desktop/pull/683>
>
> \## Description
> Use the pre- overlay-key value to prevent magpie window manager… crash when mutter-common v48-rc is installed
> 
> 
> \### Submitter Checklist
> 
> \- \[\] Squashed commits with \`git rebase -i\` (if needed)
> \- \[\] Built budgie-desktop and verified that the patch worked (if needed)

seems there is already a fix on the way..

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/9 "2025-03-23T22:35:43Z")

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**Author:** ![athens420](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/athens420/32/111160_2.png) [@athens420](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/athens420)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/10 "2025-03-24T07:32:02Z")

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Yea I got this similar error. Ended up making a simple script to fix my issue without out downgrading mutter. Checking logs revealed errors related to `g_settings_get_mapped()` in `org.gnome.mutter`, which caused `budgie-wm` to crash - [quick and dirty fix](https://0x0.st/8jQL.sh)

[system info (for anyone curious)](https://0x0.st/8jQQ.txt)

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**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/11 "2025-03-24T14:34:18Z")

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The updated package `eos-settings-budgie` version 1.8-1 should fix the issue.

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**Author:** ![eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eso/32/36767_2.png) [@eso](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eso)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/12 "2025-03-24T15:50:40Z")

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```auto
 endeavouros/eos-settings-budgie 1.8-1 (14.5 KiB 679.0 B) (Installed)
    Budgie settings for EndeavourOS

```

is there in a new install but unfortunately did not fix the issue with me.

fix.sh of @athens420 works though.  
(downgrade mutter –log in– upgrade mutter and run fix.sh)

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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/13 "2025-03-24T16:18:59Z")

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fixed it for me. At least with mutter 46.5-1. Not sure if i should update to 48.0-4.

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**Author:** ![Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/zut/32/53944_2.png) [@Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Zut)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/14 "2025-03-24T17:09:47Z")

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I am having the same issue here. How do I get to a terminal window if I get the crash as soon as I inter my login password? I am on a live boot now.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Dirk)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/15 "2025-03-24T17:20:39Z")

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With a right klick on the desktop, you will get the window budgie desktop settings.  
Now klick on “Autostart” and add the terminal application.  
After the reboot, there will be the terminal window.

In this case you don’t have to be on a live boot.  
Boot your installed system.

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**Author:** ![Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/zut/32/53944_2.png) [@Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Zut)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/16 "2025-03-24T17:22:05Z")

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Thanks, I will give it a try!!

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**Author:** ![Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Dirk)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/17 "2025-03-24T17:25:15Z")

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Or have a look here

> [@After the last system update there is a log in failure](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/after-the-last-system-update-there-is-a-log-in-failure/69435/8):
>
> My desktop environment is Budgie.

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**Author:** ![moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moxdrox/32/87725_2.png) [@moxdrox](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/moxdrox)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/18 "2025-03-24T17:37:22Z")

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for me budgie desktop settings had not worked when budgie wm crashed ☹

what worked for me was to ssh into that machine (ok ssh has to be enabled) from an other PC.

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**Author:** ![Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Dirk](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Dirk)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/19 "2025-03-24T17:41:03Z")

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I was able to start the system into terminal without gui while booting the system with pressed keys **Ctrl-Alt-F3**.

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**Author:** ![Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/zut/32/53944_2.png) [@Zut](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Zut)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/budgie-not-starting-correctly/69367/20 "2025-03-24T22:15:16Z")

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**Ctrl-Alt-F3** worked, and I was able to downgrade to an earlier version 47.0-3. It’s working now. The terminal window was a bit wonky, I couldn’t scroll to see all versions, so I just selected 47.0-3. Oh well things are back to okay so far.  
Cheers Mate

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