# Best Firefox alternative, in flatpak version, for another distro (Openmamba)

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**Created:** [March 15, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078 "2025-03-15T17:24:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sermor](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sermor/32/87004_2.png) [@Sermor](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Sermor)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/1 "2025-03-15T17:24:28Z")

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Hello everyone, given the latest update of Firefox policies, I ask for advice on the alternative to this browser in the flatpak version that would guarantee free use and privacy.

I ask for the flatpak version because the distro where I would like to install another browser is Openmamba, and the only alternative from the distro’s repositories is only Chromium, and it doesn’t seem like a great deal to me.

Other browsers like Brave, Opera, or LibreWolf can only be found via flatpak. As for Brave in the flatpak version, I read around that it has some problems, or in any case it’s not the best.

So, in your opinion, which browser in the flatpak version would guarantee free use and privacy and not cause problems in general?

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**Author:** ![cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cactux/32/134907_2.png) [@cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cactux)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/2 "2025-03-15T17:30:41Z")

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Many privacy thinking users will say LibreWolf. A Firefox fork with many privacy tweaks.  
I use it, the flatpak version, and I am very content with it.  
If you want to read more: [https://librewolf.net/](https://librewolf.net/)

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/3 "2025-03-15T18:19:33Z")

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mullvad is fantastic. and librewolf. I use them both.

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**Author:** ![swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/swh/32/95303_2.png) [@swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/swh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/4 "2025-03-15T18:29:51Z")

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Did you install mullvad from `AUR`? and if so, did you pick the `bin` package?

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/5 "2025-03-15T18:36:21Z")

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`aur/mullvad-browser-bin 14.0.7-2 (+54 7.76) (Installed)`

thar she be.

one user here complained it was too restrictive. I thought it is as functional as librewolf. love them both.

edit: and `aur/librewolf-bin 1:136.0.1_1-1 (+458 40.09) (Installed)`

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**Author:** ![swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/swh/32/95303_2.png) [@swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/swh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/6 "2025-03-15T18:39:38Z")

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Thank you. I have only used mullvad from the website so far. I will install it permanently.

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/7 "2025-03-15T18:47:51Z")

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I left the settings alone (GASP!) because they were all pretty strict and to my liking. all google and pocket ripped out.  
The _single change_ I made to Mullvad was to add `noscript` extension to the stock `ublock` extension.

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**Author:** ![swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/swh/32/95303_2.png) [@swh](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/swh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/8 "2025-03-15T18:59:37Z")

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installed

> ❯ yay -Ss mullvad-browser-bin  
> aur/mullvad-browser-bin 14.0.7-2 (+54 7.76) (Installiert)  
> Privacy-focused web browser developed by Mullvad VPN and the Tor Project

Now i have to look around that browser

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**Author:** ![cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cactux/32/134907_2.png) [@cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cactux)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/9 "2025-03-15T19:06:25Z")

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> [@drunkenvicar](#):
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> The _single change_ I made to Mullvad was to add `noscript` extension

This should be installed by default: [https://mullvad.net/de/browser/hard-facts#extensions](https://mullvad.net/de/browser/hard-facts#extensions)  
It was when I tried Mullvad before.

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**Author:** ![Sermor](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/sermor/32/87004_2.png) [@Sermor](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Sermor)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/10 "2025-03-15T19:38:59Z")

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Thanks to all guys, in the end I put librewolf (flatpak) on Openmamba.

On EOS and Garuda I put Brave at the moment, but I could always put Librewolf instead.

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**Author:** ![cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cactux/32/134907_2.png) [@cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cactux)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/11 "2025-03-15T19:52:37Z")

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Brave is perhaps the best chromium-based browser when you think of privacy stuff. Many people don’t like it because the company Brave has done suspicious things in the past. It is open source so these things should come to light.

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**Author:** ![anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/anarch/32/6757_2.png) [@anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anarch)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/12 "2025-03-15T20:26:24Z")

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In my eyes, what were suggested as a Firefox alternative is not what the OP has asked for. Either Librewolf or Mullvad are way more oriented towards privacy & security. Which could be potentially bad, eg, if you simply want just all websites to work. Or not having your browser cache deleted.  
Brave is a good suggestion , but Chromium-based, if the OP doesn’t mind.  
This leaves us with either Floorp or Zen, provided someone asks for a direct FF alternative.  
\*\*\* A good option, too, is using an Appimage… personally, I prefer them over flatpacks (actually, I’ve never used any). 🙂

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/13 "2025-03-15T20:38:16Z")

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> [@cactux](#):
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> This should be installed by default: [https://mullvad.net/de/browser/hard-facts#extensions](https://mullvad.net/de/browser/hard-facts#extensions)  
> It was when I tried Mullvad before.

yeah you are right. I liked it SO MUCH I added it to Librewolf. [Now the Umatrix is unmaintained NoScript does all the dirty work. Quite well).

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/14 "2025-03-15T20:44:34Z")

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> [@anarch](#):
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> Either Librewolf or Mullvad are way more oriented towards privacy & security. Which could be potentially bad, eg, if you simply want just all websites to work. Or not having your browser cache deleted.  
> Brave is a good suggestion , but Chromium-based, if the OP doesn’t mind.  
> This leaves us with either Floorp or Zen, provided someone asks for a direct FF alternative.  
> \*\*\* A good option, too, is using an Appimage… personally, I prefer them over flatpacks (actually, I’ve never used any)

OP’s question was "

> [@Sermor](#):
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> which browser in the flatpak version would guarantee free use and privacy and not cause problems in general?

Never knew LibreWolf to cause any problems. Ever. OP did ask about privacy. I will admit this is a much more general question than the one I thought I had skimmed over..

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**Author:** ![anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/anarch/32/6757_2.png) [@anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anarch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/15 "2025-03-16T01:56:25Z")

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Nothing personal, mate. Actually, the title of the thread reads **" Best Firefox alternative, in flatpak version, for another distro (Openmamba)"**. And the OP asks for **"given the latest update of Firefox policies, I ask for advice on the alternative to this browser "**.  
That said, Mullvad & Librewolf are NOT literally just an alternative to FF, but an “upgrade” to a security & privacy focused FF derivatives.  
PLEASE DO NOTE that I never said that either of them causes ANY PROBLEMS. What I said (& repeat it once more) is some “inconveniences”. Not because they’re “bad browsers” but due to the nature of hardened browsers in general. That’s all.  
Cheers 👍

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**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/16 "2025-03-16T02:11:31Z")

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Having re-read my _two_ sentences, over and over, I can’t see why the defensiveness. I thought OP query was general and you thought it specific. And we are really splitting hairs, apples to apples about “inconveniences” here. We both offered alternatives in our earnestness to give OP insight.

Did not mean to strike any nerves in the least. Perhaps I wasn’t clear, I apologize. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/anarch/32/6757_2.png) [@anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anarch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/17 "2025-03-16T04:54:43Z")

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Apologies on what grounds? As you have pointed out we both offered alternatives. Mine was a clarification between the plain, normal, for general-use FF & its fortified derivatives.  
So…apologies …access denied. 😂  
See you round.

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**Author:** ![anon95574669](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@anon95574669](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon95574669)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 8:12am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/18 "2025-03-16T08:12:03Z")

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And thanks to the Garuda team it is as easy as `sudo pacman -S librewolf` to install librewolf from chaotic-aur repo. This chaotic-aur package is based on the aur version of Librewolf, which is better performing than the -bin version, because they have a slightly different path of origin as communicated on the librewolf webpage - see here:  
[https://codeberg.org/librewolf/source](https://codeberg.org/librewolf/source) ( section LibreWolf overview, Source tarball for Unsupported markdown vs. Linux binary tarball for Unsupported markdown).

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**Author:** ![cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/cactux/32/134907_2.png) [@cactux](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/cactux)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/19 "2025-03-16T08:48:32Z")

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> [@anon95574669](#):
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> This chaotic-aur package is based on the aur version of Librewolf, which is better performing than the -bin version, because they have a slightly different path of origin

Could you explain a bit more about why it has better performance?

Also, Librewolf itself has an Arch build repository: [https://codeberg.org/librewolf/arch](https://codeberg.org/librewolf/arch)  
It says:

> ### AUR packages
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> To make your life easier, use the packages provided via the AUR:
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> - [librewolf](https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/librewolf): build from source; again, it will take a long time
> - [librewolf-bin](https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/librewolf-bin): spare the time and work, download the binary

I don’t see anything related to performance of the browser.

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**Author:** ![anon95574669](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@anon95574669](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon95574669)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/best-firefox-alternative-in-flatpak-version-for-another-distro-openmamba/69078/20 "2025-03-16T11:12:40Z")

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> [@cactux](#):
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> I don’t see anything related to performance of the browser.

No, certainly not in the Librewolf advertisement but in the list of issues

> **[librewolf-bin for arch slow compared to firefox](https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/1994)**
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> I would like to use the librewolf-bin package in the AUR, but it is much slower than firefox. Only when I compile librewolf by myself, I get a decent performance, even better than with firefox. Why is librewolf-bin slower than firefox although they...

Surprising for me was that the -bin version of librewolf does not come straight out of its aur package.  
I always thought every bin package on AUR is pre-compiled out of its aur version.

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