Are You Yes or No, on AI.. DuckDuck Poll

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I think a lot of people have AI fatigue as it’s driving up hardware prices and seems like it might drive gaming to cloud only with subscriptions because of gaming pc’s becoming unafordable for average people. I hope I’m wrong but it sure seems to be going that direction. Can’t wait for that bubble to pop cause I’m tired of them adding into everything without the ability to turn it off, such as a chatapp like WhatsApp where I’m never going to use it.

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This.

Maybe AI could be useful. But at the moment mankind is to dumb to use it right :slight_smile:

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I know opinions vary on this but my personal perspective is that there are some great uses of AI and I am not generally opposed.

However, there are also a lot of bad uses of AI and those are by many orders of magnitude the more prevalent type you run into.

When you combine that with the threat AI brings to people’s jobs and other environmental impacts it makes the negatives outweigh the positive.

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Agreed there are good uses for it, but it seems for the most part that big tech companies are using it to squeeze more money out of people and to pushing even more for cloud services and subscriptions into the spending culture with the evolving of AI. Just look at how MS is pushing towards cloud PC’s.

That feels like a fallacy trap many people fall into. It isn’t a either/or, and now we have to judge them all together in a binary fashion. As you said there are good use-cases and bad use-cases. We don’t have to throw away the good use-cases because we don’t like the bad ones.

What’s new about that though? It’s another thing you could do locally but they want to sell it as a service. It was true before AI, it is true after AI, it isn’t something particularly unique to AI.

I agree but they have been pushing for subscriptions and cloud PCs long before AI became prevalent.

For the record, I agree. It wasn’t my intention to imply otherwise.

I use AI on a regular basis but it doesn’t mean I am not infinitely frustrated with virtually everything integrating AI in mostly useless ways or AI actively making things worse.(Like the web).

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Yeah true, but with AI it seems to have shifted a gear higher than how it was before with the speed of the direction.

Well like I said before, it seems big tech corps are purposely buying up most of the hardware for AI they say, causing hardware prices to go up. We have seen that GPU prices never went back down after they went up to what they are now. If that happens for other hardware as well, gaming pc’s will become too expensive for normal people to buy and then big tech will push their cloud gamging even more until it becomes the standard. So in short I think they are shifting a gear up, to speed that evolution up.

This AI thing is like knowledge of “nuclear reaction”. If used right, it can generate unlimited, cheap power, otherwise, Nuke.

That’s one potential outcome. Companies are trying to sell everything as a service: office applications, communication, image editing, gaming, … - AI is just a new product iteration. Some of it was successful, some of it failed miserably so far, notably gaming hardware.

Big LLM AI is somewhat unique since it started in the cloud, but we have to wait and see. There’s a reason people consider it a bubble.

The amount of power generation that data centers/AI are eating up now and going to in the future is staggering! :face_with_spiral_eyes:

Key Insights

  • Explosive Growth Trajectory: U.S. data center electricity consumption has tripled from 58 TWh in 2014 to 176 TWh in 2023, with projections suggesting it could reach 325-580 TWh by 2028—potentially consuming up to 12% of total U.S. electricity generation.

  • AI is the Game Changer: Artificial intelligence workloads consume 1,000x more electricity than traditional web searches, with AI-optimized server racks requiring 40-100+ kW compared to traditional racks using just 5-15 kW, fundamentally reshaping data center power requirements.

  • Regional Grid Strain is Real: Data centers now consume over 22% of Ireland’s total electricity and at least five U.S. states see data centers using more than 10% of their electricity generation, creating significant challenges for local power grids and energy planning.

  • Efficiency Gains Can’t Keep Pace: Despite impressive improvements in Power Usage Effectiveness (from 2.5 in 2007 to 1.55 in 2022) and major renewable energy commitments from tech giants, the sheer scale of digital demand growth—driven by AI, edge computing, and digital transformation—is outpacing efficiency improvements.

Bro, did you just use AI to give a “Key Insight” summary of an article criticizing the negative impact of AI? :rofl:

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:slight_smile: Nah, taken from the site itself, still a few search engines out there that don’t use AI or you can turn it off.

Shady algorithms and persuasion from bad ‘actors’ occurs daily. I don’t need to be lied to or have facts misrepresented to me about the pro’s or con’s of many things using AI. To me it presents a greater harm and threat to all then good.Thought manipulation would benefit the few who seek to subjugate all of us.

The internet and ‘television’ were supposed to be life changing technologies have manipulated people’s shopping habits using ‘crap’ capitalist advertising with the one main goal of extracting money from the masses while misrepresenting the true facts to people about products, pills, and knowledge.

Just ask your doctor ‘if this pill’ will benefit you or kill you type bullshit.

In an era of mass confusion, hysteria, low I. Q thinking, conspiratory thinking it serves no one but to make us all stupid and easier to be controlled and manipulated.

Like many things that were supposed to be beneficial to everyone, we are now being hoodwinked into believing this will solve many issues for people who have little or no critical thinking skills.

Just my two cents. . .

Rich :wink:

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I’m going to make this short and sweet… Yes (and No).

YES

  • When I’M the one using it by choice… it can be great. Whether help with editing a long writing, seeking additional info for footnotes (always confirming), or silly image and/or digital art creation. A.I. can be a useful tool because when it’s your choice, it is what YOU make it.

NO

  • When it’s being shoved down my throat by Copilot, Google, and Apple. I’m then NOT in control. Making it what Microsoft, Google, or Apple wants it to be.
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I’m not completely against it, but I’m not a huge fan of AI either. If something like that is forced on me, I tend to be against it. I want to decide for myself what I use and what I don’t.

What I use quite often is a translation tool like Deepl, but that’s about it.

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What I consider very negative is the continuing rise in prices for computer hardware due to the AI boom.

Just saw a Asus motherboard that in the images said this was AI, that was AI, etc… I’m willing to bet if purchased one would find there is no actual AI on anything including it’s bios. So AI for me is a big fat no in as many way I can say it.

Here is my two cents.

A.I for the next few years will continue on this “Throw it at the wall and see what sticks” phase. It will also be the excuse to lay people off. Corporations are always looking to cut THEIR cost while never passing that savings on. For Many though A.I has not paid off. Chatgpt is currently going broke. May have Microsoft buy them?

A.I is like any other tool. I mean using a Hammer to open a paint can is going to be messy. A.I will be put in many places that it will be the wrong tool and Corporations will adjust.

Right now A.I is in a gathering stage. Its just collecting information but really has no idea of how to properly use it because it has no experience to base things on. So it makes its best Algorithmic guess.

Right now in this “infant” Stage as we go into early childhood with A.I everyone is going to be trying to put it everywhere they can because everyone is looking to become the top A.I dog. (There can be only one :wink:) some may get that reference.

I’ve had minimal use with A.I and while it has great potential it is also dumber than a pet rock.

A.I will dominate in precision stuff once its matured however for now its a growing pain that we apparently must all endure.

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