Update notifications are helpful on a non-rolling distro. This is Arch, there’s always updates. It’s definitely more helpful on a distro that isn’t always updated to be notified of the next set of updates.
I can see wanting the ease of use to searching packages though from your own computer. I’m almost always online so the website works for me, but I definitely can see where it could be a useful tool for searching.
Notifications are a non-issue really - it is already taken care of for you if you wish - by EndeavourOS. The notifier it comes with doesn’t just notify, it also shows you Arch-news (which might alert you to a manual intervention requirement) but it also can do the updates for you if desired.
As for the searching - as you wish. I find it unnecessary (even Welcome has enough for me - or what you can find out by pacman -Ss or by yay pkgname) - but a few days shouldn’t be that big a problem to be without it. At least the updating can be done lots of ways regardless…
Not anymore. I received an update for Octopi-dev about an hour ago, but it fails to upgrade with errors. Uninstalled it completely, reinstall now fails. I am assuming this is common, given it is a dev branch?
It’s like you say: a few days (or even weeks!) without it is no big deal at all. It’s merely a convenience issue in my opinion. There are always alternative ways of keeping on top of things
eos-update-notifier shows notifications about all updates including AUR, and lets you do the actual update as well.
And it can be configured in various ways in file /etc/eos-update-notifier.conf.
Because some folks want to update immediately if there’s an update. I’m not a developer, or someone who needs that. Most people don’t in actuality. I don’t have time for that, and since there’s almost always an update, I just assume there’s an update. For instance, I updated yesterday afternoon. And now:
So even if I set a notifier up and say, only notify me if there’s an update once per day - it’s going to go off every morning. No need to get defensive about it. I was just saying that IF theoretically we were on a distro that ISN’T a continuously updated scenario, an updater would be a lot more helpful since maybe you will go days or even weeks where nothing needs to be done.
I wasn’t trying to tell you what is or isn’t Arch. Nor do I care. Run whatever you want man, it’s your computer. In Arch, there’s always an update, so having something to say there’s an update can be helpful for some, and very annoying for others. It’s like my wife telling me there’s dishes to do. There’s ALWAYS dishes to do. Her telling me didn’t make me aware, only annoyed.
So you don’t think it’s a helpful search tool? I’m really confused by this. Maybe it’s a translation thing?
And it works well! - I also uninstall it for the same reasons though. BUT, for those who want it, I’m sure it’s very helpful! There’s no wrong way to Arch!
It is your way of manage package. Not mine. I do not own any fiber connection, so I have to do update twice a day to be sure not to spend a lot of time grabbing new packages.
I’m single, so I have to wash the dishes twice a day
I just say you cannot make your own way to use Arch the way to go. I prefer pamac graphical research than pacman cli one. It is better for my old eyes
I use PAMAC for update notifying and as a package search; it is easier to find than using either the Arch package search or yay / pacman’s package search since it is categorized AND lists dependencies per default.
I am definitely in the group of people that doesn’t understand the purpose of an update notifier on Arch/EOS. From my perspective, no matter how often you update, monthly, weekly, daily, 2xperday, hourly, etc you could just do that and not worry about a notifier.
On the other hand, a lot of people seem to like them. I guess I can see a few reasons:
If you, or the person using the machine, needs reminders to update.
If you are just used to having them from other distros/OSes.
If you obsess about updates and need to install them immediately.
Of course, if you are in that last group you maybe should get some help for that…
Like always, it is an amazing thing that we can not only choose if we want to be notified or not but we have a host of different notifiers and package UIs to choose from.