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āto become absolute idiotsā (yes Iām opinionated on AI, Iām not sure itās worth it and Iām not sure itās not mostly used for things it canāt actually do, since itās not really knowledge per say, but regurgitated nonsense.)
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Theyād be better off to promote original and creative thinking of their students. THAT would be an improvement over what I experienced (admittedly some 30-40 yrs ago), which was pretty much rote learning 
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In the economic zone I am living in (I donāt believe in the real existence of sovereign, independent states), the administration just removed ācritical thinkingā from the schoolsā study plan 
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Well the job of education in general is to turn out compliant drones.
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Thatās perhaps where AI can come in handy 
Iāve seen what has graduated from the schools over the past 20 years and Believe me when I say its nothing but ARTIFICIAL Intelligence. The seems to be a lack of REAL intelligence. First letās stop stupidity.
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For this to happen you would need āREALā intelligence which seems to be lacking
Looks like a vicious circle 
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Yep, I mean, train people to think (which AI canāt) and let AI handle garbage collection (summaries/digestion) (which it does ?well?).
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I have no idea what this really means for cal state but I do think that teaching/education needs to be completely rethought in the AI era.
AI exists and it isnāt going away. Students will continue to have access to it and will continue to use it. Traditional teaching and testing methods no longer work. When AI does all the work for you, doing the work has very little meaning.
Perhaps more importantly, we need to reevaluate what actually needs to be learned. The education system has only seen minimal evolution inā¦a long time. Secondary and post secondary education has needed change even before AI and I suspect AI will be the thing to finally force that change.
To be clear, I am not saying that teachers should be replaced with AI. The what and the how we teach and measure success for the students needs to change though.
For example, outside of creative writing, is writing essays actually a useful thing to ask students to do in 2025? 30 years ago, this was done both to teach writing skills, to force the students to learn the material and to evaluate their learning. Even 30 years ago, the writing skills you learned this way were not tremendously useful. The skills and style you use to write an essay are fundamentally different than the writing skills you use for general written communication and/or business writing. Further, in a time when AI will write the essay for you, you arenāt going to learn anything by doing it. Instead of trying to get better at detecting AI written essays, educators should be thinking about new ways we can get students to learn and demonstrate learning.
Specifically in the US, I think we need evaluate if a liberal arts education makes sense in 2025. When students are spending $100,000-$500,000+ to get a post secondary education and 80%(or more) of what you learn has no applicability to life after education, the system really needs to be looked at. But, again, this was a problem long before AI.
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Remember AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses!
Nooooo! Tell me it aināt so. AI is infallible.
Out it this wayā¦ Iād rather take āgender studiesā which i see nothing wrong with. It may not be for everyone but I donāt have a problem with educating people. AI doesnāt do that!
omg!! yes! my thoughts exactly! i see a lot of cynicism around, so people didnāt have much complains about education until ai came in, without re-evaluating prior problems and overfocusing solely on this new problem? thatās emotionally charged at best.
if you tell me the proportion of anti-ai movement is equal to how people were calling for revision on education systems, youāre lying.
this is the current paradigm of higher ed.
āFor example, outside of creative writing, is writing essays actually a useful thing to ask students to do in 2025? 30 years ago, this was done both to teach writing skills, to force the students to learn the material and to evaluate their learning. Even 30 years ago, the writing skills you learned this way were not tremendously useful. The skills and style you use to write an essay are fundamentally different than the writing skills you use for general written communication and/or business writing. Further, in a time when AI will write the essay for you, you arenāt going to learn anything by doing it. Instead of trying to get better at detecting AI written essays, educators should be thinking about new ways we can get students to learn and demonstrate learning.ā
I see your points but original research is so important and the foundation of the academy. Other important skills do not need an essay.
Most universities are way ahead of you. The Liberal Arts colleges are debased and marginalized. They serve only to prepare (eng comp especially) a student for their real degree programs not teach english. What I mean is how to use citation systems, write clearly, learn paper formatting. Those last things are desired by every teacher in every discipline. The is the LAās mission as gatekeeper now.
But if you are suggesting abolishing Philosophy, History, Ceramics, Chorale, Art (āhas no applicability to life after educationā) and all things associated with the other side of our brains then I cannot concur. No they are not applicable but their value is different.
Great post @dalto , the academy never gets ahead of a problem (rethinks) they only react.
FUN FACT: most American universities and community colleges have no official AI policy: they leave that to the instructor
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But why does it need to be that way going forward? The world has changed in the last 50 years and we need to reset expectations and norms.
I have no opposition to learning those things in early life, however, once you reach the post-secondary level, do we still need that breadth of education? This is especially true given the exceptionally high cost of that education.
To be clear I am not implying that any of those subjects should be made unavailable to those who would like to pursue them. More that we shouldnāt be forcing all students to pursue them at that level.
I think we should start asking ourselves as a society, āWhat is the point of a post-secondary education?ā. Why do we go and what should we expect to get out of it?
In many cases, we are burdening young adults with immense debt just so they can say they have a degree.
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It was after 1980 when computers arrived they began to dominate writing and educational processes in the US. People began to rely on electronic gadgets to replace the need for human cognitive abilities. AI is only going to make this worse! 80% of high school graduates are at an 8th grade level in this area. Itās a fact!
Sorry i donāt agree with you on this at all.