# A Framework surprise

**URL:** <https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113>\
**Category:** Announcements and news\
**Created:** [March 16, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113 "2025-03-16T14:57:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bryanpwo/32/130600_2.png) [@Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Bryanpwo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/1 "2025-03-16T14:57:16Z")

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![57455a9e1638158e262caf526c6465520f195bad_2_1035x582](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/5/2599ed524c061b1a57b27644e382d5255994f1e3.jpeg)

The founder and CEO of [Framework](https://frame.work/gb/en), Nirav Patel, has approached us to test our releases on their hardware.

For those who are unfamiliar with the company, Framework produces laptops and Desktops that can be customized at purchase by choosing the preferred components like screens, CPU, RAM, graphic cards and more.  
The unique selling point for their products is the easy repairability due to the replaceable components but also the upgradeability in the future, reducing e-waste.

 ![photo_2025-03-10_21-08-11](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/7/c76f2b8e692cedefe65b07589b2ea66eff583d1c.jpeg)

The Framework team discovered, after post-purchase surveys, not telemetry, that a large number of customers use EndeavourOS on their laptops. To give better support for them, they approached us to test our releases on their hardware and provide them with feedback.  
We were genuinely surprised by the offer, and perhaps unnecessary to say, we said yes to their offer.  
To be clear, the offer is for their community support only, and it isn’t a business deal. We, Joe Kamprad in this case, received a Framework laptop to provide that feedback, so there is no advertisement or paid content deal going on between Framework and us.

 ![photo_2025-03-10_21-08-23](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/3/e3e5de3494b5bfbdbd2fe927a9cb7ffc3b91283a.jpeg)

On the 10th of March, @joekamprad received the package, and they sent us the following.

```
AMD Ryzen​:trade_mark: 7 7840U (up to 5.1GHz, 8-core/16-thread)

Battery - 61Wh

Webcam Module (1st Gen)

13.5" 2256 x 1504 60Hz matte display

Memory: DDR5-5600 - 16GB (2 x 8GB)

Storage: NVMe​:trade_mark:- M.2 2280 - 500GB

```

Customization:

```
Laptop Bezel: Framework Laptop 13 Bezel - Black

Keyboard: German

Power Adapter: Power Adapter - 60W - EU

```

Expansion Cards:

```
USB-C (Lavender)

USB-A

HDMI (3rd Gen)

Ethernet Expansion Card

SD

```

Accessories:

```
Framework Screwdriver

AMD Ryzen​:trade_mark: 7 7840U (up to 5.1GHz, 8-core/16-thread)

Battery - 61Wh

Webcam Module (1st Gen)

13.5" 2256 x 1504 60Hz matte display

Memory: DDR5-5600 - 16GB (2 x 8GB)

Storage: NVMe​:trade_mark:- M.2 2280 - 500GB

```

Customization:

```
Laptop Bezel: Framework Laptop 13 Bezel - Black

Keyboard: German

Power Adapter: Power Adapter - 60W - EU

```

Expansion Cards:

```
USB-C (Lavender)

USB-A

HDMI (3rd Gen)

Ethernet Expansion Card

SD

```

Accessories:

```
Framework Screwdriver

```

 ![photo_2025-03-10_21-08-32](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/0/708d53073075f754ade06604812ba79274a7d6a8.jpeg)

 ![photo_2025-03-10_21-08-47](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/7/6760a5ad4b1bfe3f24aebe81e69ca682730bd166.jpeg)

We will increase RAM and storage space using our Open Collective balance, thanks to our generous financial supporters.  
We want to thank the Framework team for their generous offer and for taking our distro into consideration to add to their community support.

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**Author:** ![Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bryanpwo/32/130600_2.png) [@Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Bryanpwo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/2 "2025-03-16T15:00:07Z")

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**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/3 "2025-03-16T15:09:16Z")

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That is _ **fantastic** _! Particularly this:

> [@Bryanpwo](#):
>
> The Framework team discovered, after post-purchase surveys, not telemetry, that **a large number of customers use EndeavourOS on their laptops.**

:enos_flag: :enos:

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**Author:** ![MyNameIsRichard](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mynameisrichard/32/111876_2.png) [@MyNameIsRichard](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/MyNameIsRichard)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/4 "2025-03-16T15:12:00Z")

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That’s great news. 🥳

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/5 "2025-03-16T15:22:18Z")

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Installing EndeavourOS on the device was completely flawless, not much i can report for now 🖖

Currently still into checking around with it.

But if anyone have questions or issues with a framework i will be in for resolving it as i can check on the hardware.

I will go to do some deeper review soon for sure too!

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**Author:** ![peciwov](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@peciwov](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/peciwov)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/6 "2025-03-16T15:54:22Z")

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Absolutely fantastic news!  
Congrats to the team for providing a distribution that is so loved, as framework’s survey suggests!

Also what framework does to accomodate Linux users is amazing.  
My only gripe with them is, I just wish they pushed a bit (or a lot…) harder for upstream Coreboot support.

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**Author:** ![andrewb](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@andrewb](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/andrewb)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/7 "2025-03-16T15:57:49Z")

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Nice! You know the usual laptop questions/grips/issues. Check for:

- sleep/wake
- hibernate
- battery life
- wifi  
🙂

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**Author:** ![zdislav](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/zdislav/32/102917_2.png) [@zdislav](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/zdislav)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/8 "2025-03-16T16:33:50Z")

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Absolutely fantastic news!

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**Author:** ![SemLraug](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/semlraug/32/83299_2.png) [@SemLraug](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/SemLraug)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/9 "2025-03-16T17:25:34Z")

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Interesting that the demographic of EOS users overlaps with the demographic of framework users.

🤔

Edit: @Bryanpwo, any chance that Framework shares their survey results? I’m really intrigued by their findings.

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**Author:** ![anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/anarch/32/6757_2.png) [@anarch](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anarch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/10 "2025-03-16T18:20:10Z")

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I watched your latest YT video & thought it was your own. Never did your “doktor” status cross my mind… 😂 👍  
Good news, for all the dev team, BTW. 👏

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**Author:** ![3nd](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/3nd/32/119404_2.png) [@3nd](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/3nd)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/11 "2025-03-16T18:22:27Z")

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on a similar note , i read an article the other day that says that Huawei might be shipping their new laptops with Linux instead of Harmony.  
That just brings joy to my heart lol

[https://www.huaweicentral.com/upcoming-huawei-pcs-could-pre-install-linux-instead-of-harmonyos/](https://www.huaweicentral.com/upcoming-huawei-pcs-could-pre-install-linux-instead-of-harmonyos/)

> **[Huawei's New Laptops May Run Linux, not HarmonyOS Next - OMG! Ubuntu](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/03/huawei-matebook-laptops-linux-leak)**
>
> Is Huawei planning to ship Linux on its upcoming MateBook laptops instead of HarmonyOS NEXT? A fresh leak out of China this week suggests so. Huawei is no

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**Author:** ![eric\_adams](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/eric_adams/32/797_2.png) [@eric\_adams](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/eric_adams)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/12 "2025-03-16T19:19:16Z")

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That’s amazing! Congrats to the team and community. It’s proof positive that lots of people use and enjoy EndeavourOS. It makes perfect sense to use an Arch-based distro on such new hardware. Knowing that EndeavourOS works well on their products will be make the decision to purchase something from Framework that much easier. Very, very cool!

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**Author:** ![Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bryanpwo/32/130600_2.png) [@Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Bryanpwo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/13 "2025-03-16T19:23:27Z")

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They didn’t share it with us. The email sent to us only told us that a large amount of users were running EOS and therefore serious enough for them to cooperate with us.

EDIT:  
We’re not in a partner affiliate program with them, we are a part of the community supported distros, like Archlinux also is. So, it is unlikely they will share exact figures with us.

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**Author:** ![Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bryanpwo/32/130600_2.png) [@Bryanpwo](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Bryanpwo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/14 "2025-03-16T19:29:34Z")

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Nice to hear from you again Eric!!!

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**Author:** ![lah7](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/lah7/32/24700_2.png) [@lah7](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/lah7)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/15 "2025-03-16T19:42:02Z")

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That’s great news! I’m no laptop user, but I would probably consider Framework if I ever was to get one.

If it allows for an out-of-the-box “it just works!” ~~shuttle into space~~ Linux experience, that’s brilliant!

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**Author:** ![SemLraug](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/semlraug/32/83299_2.png) [@SemLraug](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/SemLraug)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/16 "2025-03-16T19:42:12Z")

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Thanks for the clarification.

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**Author:** ![SBMe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@SBMe](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/SBMe)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/17 "2025-03-16T20:00:15Z")

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This is great news. Been following them for awhile. I like the concept behind their laptops a lot. As long as they offer 2 NVMe slots in a 15.6" laptop or in a 14.5" (?), since this one is a 13.5" then they have my vote.

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/18 "2025-03-16T20:17:23Z")

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> [@andrewb](#):
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> - sleep/wake
> - hibernate
> - battery life
> - wifi

3 points i will review for sure!

- sleep/hibernate
- battery life
- wifi

What i done is switch to use [IWD](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iwd) instead of wpa\_supplicant as wifi backend for NetworkManager.

There is already a page on archwiki about the device too:

> **[Framework Laptop 13 (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series) - ArchWiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Framework_Laptop_13_(AMD_Ryzen_7040_Series))**

- Hibernation is working sleep too, but i have issue on plasma with power saving options manually they do work properly. I will need to check with other DE and i3 to see if it’s really only on KDE.
- Fingerprint sensor (inside power-button) is working well with [fprint](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fprint).
- [fwupd](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fwupd) is working too, no need for a crappy exe file to update firmware ;).

I will go testing with the other Desktops too Gnome will be next as it should support ambient light sensor (exiting)

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**Author:** ![joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/joekamprad/32/77608_2.png) [@joekamprad](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/joekamprad)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/19 "2025-03-16T20:23:35Z")

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> [@SBMe](#):
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> they offer 2 NVMe slots in a 15.6" laptop or in a 14.5"

Framework 16 has 2 NVMe slots as far as I know, and they offer an Add-In Card with 500GB and 1 TB storage in too what can be used on the Framework 13 too.

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**Author:** ![roiter](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@roiter](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/roiter)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113/20 "2025-03-16T21:14:45Z")

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@Bryanpwo That’s fantastic news. It is nice to be recognized after all the hard work the Endeavour team has put in. 💜

[Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/a-framework-surprise/69113.md?page=2)
